Herding?

Enid Black · 19-03-2010, 00:04

Do you mean, doing this?

(not my dog, just an interesting video!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vu1K8QMmZk

draggar · 19-03-2010, 00:13

I'm sure my wife will want to try it.

michaelundinaeichhorn · 19-03-2010, 10:16

Really nice video, but unfortunately this is in no way herding as a proper sheepdog would do it.
I would like to see a wolfdog herding scattered sheep on an open pasture without that extremely tight controlling as seen in this clip.
And the sheep seen here are not controlled by the dog they're paying attention to what the people do, most of the time the dog doesn't seem to know what he's supposed to do.
But nevertheless a nice clip.

Michael

elf · 19-03-2010, 11:11

Thorgal and Etienne: Thorgal video

michaelundinaeichhorn · 19-03-2010, 11:34

Marvelous dog and "work", but still no herding in the sense a herding dog and a professional shepherd would do it.
But anyway, great job and lots of compliments for that.
I think the FCI had to put the CSW somewhere and since the GSD was involved they'd just put them in Group 1.
It had nothing to do with his ability as a herding and even working dog.

Michael

elf · 19-03-2010, 12:07

Some more pics (all Thorgal pics of the contest there: http://larzac.concours.free.fr/Navac...gal/index.html ):

Mikael · 19-03-2010, 19:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn

I think the FCI had to put the CSW somewhere and since the GSD was involved they'd just put them in Group 1.
It had nothing to do with his ability as a herding and even working dog.

Michael

That is what I think...

Saarloos is also in Group 1

Best regards / Mikael

Gypsy Wolf · 19-04-2010, 00:11

So Luna sheep herding for the first time yesterday - I am sure my husband will post the video when he gets around to it. Well, she certainly has drive - though I would say she is a little more predatory than expected for a 16 week old. She did the "good" herding things like "wearing" and "gathering" but she also REALLY wanted some mutton! She kept diving forward to grab a tail - the only reason she didn't get a mouthful is I was able to keep my sheep stick in the way! She is totally full of herself.
We went to a UKC show today for some socializing and was just a love to everyone there. I was happy to see her so extroverted.

wolfin · 19-03-2010, 12:52

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Originally Posted by elf

Thorgal and Etienne: Thorgal video

great ! very nice video

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elf Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 766	Thorgal and Etienne: Thorgal video __________________ http://www.amicale-chien-loup-tcheco...m/csvstat.html Last edited by elf; 19-03-2010 at 11:13.

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elf Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 766	Some more pics (all Thorgal pics of the contest there: http://larzac.concours.free.fr/Navac...gal/index.html ): __________________ http://www.amicale-chien-loup-tcheco...m/csvstat.html Last edited by elf; 19-03-2010 at 12:35.

19-03-2010, 10:16	#3
michaelundinaeichhorn Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bad Dürkheim Posts: 2,249	Really nice video, but unfortunately this is in no way herding as a proper sheepdog would do it. I would like to see a wolfdog herding scattered sheep on an open pasture without that extremely tight controlling as seen in this clip. And the sheep seen here are not controlled by the dog they're paying attention to what the people do, most of the time the dog doesn't seem to know what he's supposed to do. But nevertheless a nice clip. Michael

19-03-2010, 11:34	#5
michaelundinaeichhorn Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bad Dürkheim Posts: 2,249	Marvelous dog and "work", but still no herding in the sense a herding dog and a professional shepherd would do it. But anyway, great job and lots of compliments for that. I think the FCI had to put the CSW somewhere and since the GSD was involved they'd just put them in Group 1. It had nothing to do with his ability as a herding and even working dog. Michael

19-04-2010, 00:11	#8
Gypsy Wolf Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Florida & Minnesota U.S. Posts: 252	So Luna sheep herding for the first time yesterday - I am sure my husband will post the video when he gets around to it. Well, she certainly has drive - though I would say she is a little more predatory than expected for a 16 week old. She did the "good" herding things like "wearing" and "gathering" but she also REALLY wanted some mutton! She kept diving forward to grab a tail - the only reason she didn't get a mouthful is I was able to keep my sheep stick in the way! She is totally full of herself. We went to a UKC show today for some socializing and was just a love to everyone there. I was happy to see her so extroverted.