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Old 16-02-2010, 00:26   #1
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Dear Roberto,

for a male European Wolf, 10 month



a female CSW, 10 month


a female CSW, 15 month



they are all similar and beautiful enough. As far as it is possible to judge with three photos made in different angles, different light and different people.

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Old 16-02-2010, 09:04   #2
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Hi Lupis, you wrote this:
I seen many photos of Layla and I see nothing on wolf - no wolf characteristics. She is blackmasked with dark eyes and strange head. Nothing similar to wolf but many similatiries to shephard. Much worse than italian dogs in dog shows.

It is absolutly wrong view. What are wolf characteristics? This black mask comes from her father Blek. But we are happy, we can use him in his "end of life", because wolfdogs as breed need him. Tell me, how much males in Italy you have in "group of males" from Ayayk z Vlamy? Who is person or group of person (usually we use name- breed comission) who care about genopool in Italy?
I don´t care if it is "shepard" or no. Everything we can repair and corect by "breeding work". Yes, maybe it is work for 5 or 10 years....Why not. But we will have large genopool. We (or our breed) need not beautiful wolfdogs what you can see on italian shows (like you wrote) , but only from 1-2 bloodlines.
And about wolf characteristics: if you mean shynnes too, no thanks.
Wolfdog was created as working breed.
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Old 16-02-2010, 15:06   #3
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It is absolutly wrong view. What are wolf characteristics? This black mask comes from her father Blek. But we are happy, we can use him in his "end of life", because wolfdogs as breed need him. Tell me, how much males in Italy you have in "group of males" from Ayayk z Vlamy? Who is person or group of person (usually we use name- breed comission) who care about genopool in Italy?
I don´t care if it is "shepard" or no. Everything we can repair and corect by "breeding work".
Thank you that you agree with my opinion. I like honest answer and not try people believe shepard dog is like wolf because of one good photo.
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Old 16-02-2010, 16:24   #4
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Hi Lupis, you wrote this:
I don´t care if it is "shepard" or no. Everything we can repair and corect by "breeding work". Yes, maybe it is work for 5 or 10 years....Why not. But we will have large genopool. We (or our breed) need not beautiful wolfdogs what you can see on italian shows (like you wrote) , but only from 1-2 bloodlines.
And about wolf characteristics: if you mean shynnes too, no thanks.
Wolfdog was created as working breed.
I love the way you put this! It's all so very true. Decreasing already small gene pools is what's ruined a lot of purebred dogs. It's similar to the Victorian show era, when people didn't know what we know now about genetic diversity. People were so concerned with the "perfect" dog (i.e. the look of the dog) that they destroyed the gene pools, the functionality of the dogs, and health problems shortly followed. I'd say the majority of the most unhealthy breeds that exist are the ones that have a history of show popularity. We owe it to this wonderful, new breed not to make the same mistakes of the past!
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Hi Lupis, you wrote this:
I seen many photos of Layla and I see nothing on wolf - no wolf characteristics. She is blackmasked with dark eyes and strange head. Nothing similar to wolf but many similatiries to shephard. Much worse than italian dogs in dog shows.

It is absolutly wrong view. What are wolf characteristics? This black mask comes from her father Blek. But we are happy, we can use him in his "end of life", because wolfdogs as breed need him. Tell me, how much males in Italy you have in "group of males" from Ayayk z Vlamy? Who is person or group of person (usually we use name- breed comission) who care about genopool in Italy?
I don´t care if it is "shepard" or no. Everything we can repair and corect by "breeding work". Yes, maybe it is work for 5 or 10 years....Why not. But we will have large genopool. We (or our breed) need not beautiful wolfdogs what you can see on italian shows (like you wrote) , but only from 1-2 bloodlines.
And about wolf characteristics: if you mean shynnes too, no thanks.
Wolfdog was created as working breed.
I agree in 100%.
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Old 17-02-2010, 15:35   #6
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Dear Ina and Michael, all the "new pups" are very beautiful . Lots of love, Minna
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Hi Minna,

nice hearing from you.
Do mean the wolf or dog pups?
Could you please send us your new home number.

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Old 17-02-2010, 16:10   #8
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Michael you know, I truly love all the pups ... and they are so beautifu .
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Dear Roberto,

for a male European Wolf, 10 month



a female CSW, 10 month


a female CSW, 15 month



they are all similar and beautiful enough. As far as it is possible to judge with three photos made in different angles, different light and different people.

Greetings
Ina
Dear Ina
thank for photo.You are right.
When I read your comment I undestand that for you tihs work it's all.
BRAVA.
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Old 16-02-2010, 15:08   #10
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Ehm....I don't think this thread was meant to be to Praise Zlata Palz Kennel ...
Again...totally out of thread showing a picture of your own dog saying "who is this".
No hard feelings Roberto but Layla is a nice CSW, no doubt, as is G'Maya and Cabernet but...it has nothing to do with this thread.
I mean...you all have nice and beautiful wolfdogs but CLEARLY the pics I posted are EXTREEMLY wolfish looking, much much more than average, that is why I posted the pics in the first place.
SO wolfish I was "hoping" there would be a bit of ignorance and superficiality in some (and it worked) who thought that the dogs were not pure CSW but hybrids, while of course I know for sure they are not, unless breeder Brnovska stopa or Feherlofia used pure wolf of course.

You guys are giving poor Paula a hard work sorting out threads which are totally out of thread.
If you want to praise your beautiful dog or your favourite kennel, just make a new thread.
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