Hi, new here :)

AraiNI · 15-02-2010, 17:06

Lupa and Meeka are still at the stage that they don't understand when a dog is telling them to back off, they think the other dogs just want to play...and they both have got such little coordination with their limbs right now that some dogs just don't like them too much, lol. Ami's a humper too, its such a pain isn't it? Typically there are less people earlier in the day. The one in homer glan is really slow in the day, but I was going there when it was still fairly new (we lived in new lenox at that time), so I'm not sure if it changed since then. The one out there is (i think) 5 or 6 acres separated into 4 areas. Three areas with a pavillion and one larger area connected in back of the big dog areas with a walking path. It's really lovely, I really wish I could justify spending the gas to go there more often, but the one on black road is a 30 second drive and the one in Naperville is about a 15 minute drive....

Anyway, I would love if someone could give me a little more to add to my website on CSV, right now this is all I have "CSV can be traced back to 1955. They are recognized as the national breed in Czechoslovakia.They are considered "Low Content Wolfdogs"" plus a link to this website.

http://northerninuitusa.webs.com/otherbreeds.htm

I don't want to give incorrect information, so I figured this would be the best place to ask. Thanks

GalomyOak · 15-02-2010, 19:03

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Originally Posted by AraiNI

Anyway, I would love if someone could give me a little more to add to my website on CSV, right now this is all I have "CSV can be traced back to 1955. They are recognized as the national breed in Czechoslovakia.They are considered "Low Content Wolfdogs"" plus a link to this website.

http://northerninuitusa.webs.com/otherbreeds.htm

I don't want to give incorrect information, so I figured this would be the best place to ask. Thanks

If you are talking about the breed in the US, you can find official AKC and UKC info here (the breed is recordable with AKC/FSS and fully registerable with UKC - it is known as the Czechoslovakian Vlcak). It can compete in Companion events in the AKC, as well as Conformation B matches. It is fully recognized by the FCI; while it is a national breed of the former Czechoslovakia, it's patronage country is now Slovakia, although the Czech breeding commission works very closely as well. I don't know if it is "the" official breed in either country.

http://www.akc.org/breeds/czechoslovakian_wolfdog/
http://www.ukcdogs.com/WebSite.nsf/B...ovakianWolfdog

The breed was created with a working purpose in mind, not just as a "wolf look-alike". It is not considered a "low content wolfdog" in the US - according to Humane Society policy, anything beyond F5 (generation 5 after wolf breeding) is only a dog - current CSVs in the US are all a few generations beyond F5. In reality, they still carry some wolfish influence in temperament, and looks, obviously.

If you look under "History" on this website, you will also find some info.

Marcy

AMERICANI · 15-02-2010, 22:24

I wish I had publicly announced my trip now, aside from my ATM card locking me out because I forgot my PIN in Prauge, I would have loved to had hooked up with some other human beings (Piter was great company as well - He let me know if someone was near the car when I pulled over to rest). Daniel was really friendly! I even had a beer with some Polish soldiers at my hotel...I want to go back when it isn't so cold.

AMERICANI · 15-02-2010, 22:30

Sorry i'm back in Napoli.... The 3 hours I was there (due to the mad-house of carnevale - which I forgot all about until I wound up in the middle of it)... Like I said, had I made my trip known to everyone we probably would have been able to hook up. I definitely know what to do next time!

AraiNI · 15-02-2010, 22:39

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Originally Posted by GalomyOak

If you are talking about the breed in the US, you can find official AKC and UKC info here (the breed is recordable with AKC/FSS and fully registerable with UKC - it is known as the Czechoslovakian Vlcak). It can compete in Companion events in the AKC, as well as Conformation B matches. It is fully recognized by the FCI; while it is a national breed of the former Czechoslovakia, it's patronage country is now Slovakia, although the Czech breeding commission works very closely as well. I don't know if it is "the" official breed in either country.

http://www.akc.org/breeds/czechoslovakian_wolfdog/
http://www.ukcdogs.com/WebSite.nsf/B...ovakianWolfdog

The breed was created with a working purpose in mind, not just as a "wolf look-alike". It is not considered a "low content wolfdog" in the US - according to Humane Society policy, anything beyond F5 (generation 5 after wolf breeding) is only a dog - current CSVs in the US are all a few generations beyond F5. In reality, they still carry some wolfish influence in temperament, and looks, obviously.

If you look under "History" on this website, you will also find some info.

Marcy

Thank you, most of the information I get is from the UK sites, so the information I have is probably old and (considering the sources) wrong. I knew that CSV was created for a working purpose, I hope I didn't make it seem like it wasn't. I just wanted to mention other breeds that people might come across in their search. Thanks for the information

AraiNI · 17-02-2010, 18:14

Does this sound right?

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CSV can be traced back to 1955 when the first matings of a German Shepherd Dog with a Carpathian Wolf took place. Several generations of matings happened between dogs that were tested for their capacity for training, activity and tenacity. These later generations were used as service dogs in the army. The last inclusion of wolf lines was in 1983 and the breed has been bred pure since. In some countries they are considered "low content wolfdogs" but in America, all the the current residing dogs are beyond F5. They do, however, still retain some wolf influence in temperament and looks. CSV is recordable with AKC, fully registerable with UKC, and fully recocgnized by FCI.

Thanks so much for you help!

Is anyone familiar with Saarloos, too? Or know of a place I could look? I've had much more trouble finding information on them.

AMERICANI · 18-02-2010, 00:13

Try Norway.... They seem to not have a problem with Saarloos.... They are used as blind dogs, and for some reason (I would never suggest any country in Europe

eh-hem {cough} .. be crooked) They are legal there... EVEN THOUGH.... CSVs are banned because they are a dangerous wolf breed... One day, when I come back home (Stateside) I will chat more. Jason

15-02-2010, 22:24	#3
AMERICANI Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 111	Poland I wish I had publicly announced my trip now, aside from my ATM card locking me out because I forgot my PIN in Prauge, I would have loved to had hooked up with some other human beings (Piter was great company as well - He let me know if someone was near the car when I pulled over to rest). Daniel was really friendly! I even had a beer with some Polish soldiers at my hotel...I want to go back when it isn't so cold.

15-02-2010, 22:30	#4
AMERICANI Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 111	Venice Sorry i'm back in Napoli.... The 3 hours I was there (due to the mad-house of carnevale - which I forgot all about until I wound up in the middle of it)... Like I said, had I made my trip known to everyone we probably would have been able to hook up. I definitely know what to do next time!

18-02-2010, 00:13	#7
AMERICANI Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 111	To AraiNI: Try Norway.... They seem to not have a problem with Saarloos.... They are used as blind dogs, and for some reason (I would never suggest any country in Europe eh-hem {cough} .. be crooked) They are legal there... EVEN THOUGH.... CSVs are banned because they are a dangerous wolf breed... One day, when I come back home (Stateside) I will chat more. Jason

15-02-2010, 17:06	#1
AraiNI Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chicago, IL, USA Posts: 10	Lupa and Meeka are still at the stage that they don't understand when a dog is telling them to back off, they think the other dogs just want to play...and they both have got such little coordination with their limbs right now that some dogs just don't like them too much, lol. Ami's a humper too, its such a pain isn't it? Typically there are less people earlier in the day. The one in homer glan is really slow in the day, but I was going there when it was still fairly new (we lived in new lenox at that time), so I'm not sure if it changed since then. The one out there is (i think) 5 or 6 acres separated into 4 areas. Three areas with a pavillion and one larger area connected in back of the big dog areas with a walking path. It's really lovely, I really wish I could justify spending the gas to go there more often, but the one on black road is a 30 second drive and the one in Naperville is about a 15 minute drive.... Anyway, I would love if someone could give me a little more to add to my website on CSV, right now this is all I have "CSV can be traced back to 1955. They are recognized as the national breed in Czechoslovakia.They are considered "Low Content Wolfdogs"" plus a link to this website. http://northerninuitusa.webs.com/otherbreeds.htm I don't want to give incorrect information, so I figured this would be the best place to ask. Thanks