About "stud list" on wolfdog.org

massimo · 01-23-2010, 02:42 PM

Paula moved away the part about "Admin" and I agree on creation of new thread but...this part was moved away, I think it was coherent to the thread:

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Coming back to the main argument, I wrote already 4 months ago,addressing to ADMIN:
"If a dog with declared but not proven ED 0 goes on the stud list and a dog with proven ED0/1 doesn't.... it's automatic that you are PUSHING people NOT to declare bad elbows... as many other may be in the stud list."
and now it seems many many others are joining the same point of view.

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The discussion about studlist is open since september, nothing has changed.
Now more than 75 people, users of WD.org, show their disagreement on a rule of WD.org and we really are not sure if we are being heard by the right person.
Will ADMIN listen to our "plead" (which now is stronger than 4 months ago...)?

jmvdwiel · 01-23-2010, 03:39 PM

I'm against of moving the dogs wih ED problems of the list, in Holland as Mijke already mentioned ED is not nescessary yet for breeding.

That is the reason why I didn't do the test yet, If my dog would be selected as a stud dog (which I now think he is to young for), than I can still make the x-ray if the female is x-rayed.

For now I don't have any problems, so for his health I don't have to make the pictures, and of course I know you cannot believe somebody on his/her words.
So why not just put the results in the list, so that every breeder can select the right male/female for his/her dog, I don't think the average wolfdog visitor is THAT stupid that he cannot make a choice for himself.

So I am AGAINST of removing the dogs without he ED results.

Nebulosa · 01-23-2010, 06:47 PM

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Originariamente inviata da massimo

Paula moved away the part about "Admin"

Some kind of sleepwalking.

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Originariamente inviata da jmvdwiel

So I am AGAINST of removing the dogs without he ED results.

I think people need a time to get adaptated, also I dont believe some people will make the dogs pass again for the anesthesie only for make ED results.
Would be more fair if start to require the ED results for the new stud dogs, dogs born from half of 2008 ahead.

jmvdwiel · 01-23-2010, 07:19 PM

I don't think you need anaesthesia for the elbows (with a normal dog

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AMERICANI · 01-25-2010, 05:01 PM

Please add me too!

Martab · 01-26-2010, 06:31 PM

Hallo, nice to meet everyone!

Let's actualize the list:
dany
bonfiglioli
hayla
riko06
star
sunnyna
betti
piccolino
anastasia
laila
edha
jal
molisanodream
starjumper
erica&amy
elisaP
i piccy
Antarctica
arf
woland77
aly87
matteo&martina
valentina
frafairy
na
mogwai
divina
maya
ciao69
bricicca1
arnaldo it
venerusoangelo
giobi 81
tatanka1094
luca
pisculli
marco
zach
chiara.giardini
m.greta
Lyudmila Encheva
roby e gaio
sirius
zattilio
littlewolf
fede86
denial
odisseo
sciamalaia
robykut
MariNoor
amaguk
ezibaby
gilda
ste
chepi
ciao69
riko06
mat
littlewolf
hadankama
ovogibba
wolflinx
germans
ornella
vassel
laila
martab
navarre
Mikael
Runningwolf
z Peronoòwki
michaelundinaeicchorn
mijke
Nebulosa
Rona
Americani

whereas Jmvdwiel is "against of removing the dogs without ED results", but I guess not against including dogs WITH ED results, whatever the result is. Is it correct?
Are we in 78 or 79?

sciamalaia · 01-26-2010, 06:46 PM

I think we should include dogs with any results of ED in the list and not to exclude people who do not have the results yet.
I think it is better to know that hiding, since it is not an official list of a specific club .
If I'm wrong or if you do not agree please say your opinion ..

Mikael · 01-26-2010, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originariamente inviata da Martab

Hallo, nice to meet everyone!

Let's actualize the list:
dany
bonfiglioli
hayla
riko06
star
sunnyna
betti
piccolino
anastasia
laila
edha
jal
molisanodream
starjumper
erica&amy
elisaP
i piccy
Antarctica
arf
woland77
aly87
matteo&martina
valentina
frafairy
na
mogwai
divina
maya
ciao69
bricicca1
arnaldo it
venerusoangelo
giobi 81
tatanka1094
luca
pisculli
marco
zach
chiara.giardini
m.greta
Lyudmila Encheva
roby e gaio
sirius
zattilio
littlewolf
fede86
denial
odisseo
sciamalaia
robykut
MariNoor
amaguk
ezibaby
gilda
ste
chepi
ciao69
riko06
mat
littlewolf
hadankama
ovogibba
wolflinx
germans
ornella
vassel
laila
martab
navarre
Mikael
Runningwolf
z Peronoòwki
michaelundinaeicchorn
mijke
Nebulosa
Rona
Americani

whereas Jmvdwiel is "against of removing the dogs without ED results", but I guess not against including dogs WITH ED results, whatever the result is. Is it correct?
Are we in 78 or 79?

-1 read Mijke´s post nr 3 and 8

It is to be 77-1 I think

Very best regards / Mikael

jmvdwiel · 01-26-2010, 10:00 PM

Yes you are totally correct

But you can call me Judith

whereas Jmvdwiel is "against of removing the dogs without ED results", but I guess not against including dogs WITH ED results, whatever the result is. Is it correct?

01-23-2010, 03:39 PM	#2
jmvdwiel Senior Member Registrato dal: Apr 2007 Messaggi: 1,061	I'm against of moving the dogs wih ED problems of the list, in Holland as Mijke already mentioned ED is not nescessary yet for breeding. That is the reason why I didn't do the test yet, If my dog would be selected as a stud dog (which I now think he is to young for), than I can still make the x-ray if the female is x-rayed. For now I don't have any problems, so for his health I don't have to make the pictures, and of course I know you cannot believe somebody on his/her words. So why not just put the results in the list, so that every breeder can select the right male/female for his/her dog, I don't think the average wolfdog visitor is THAT stupid that he cannot make a choice for himself. So I am AGAINST of removing the dogs without he ED results. Ultima modifica di jmvdwiel : 01-23-2010 a 07:18 PM

01-25-2010, 05:01 PM	#5
AMERICANI Member Registrato dal: Feb 2008 ubicazione: Planet Earth Messaggi: 111	AmeriCani Kennels Please add me too!

01-26-2010, 06:31 PM	#6
Martab Distinguished Member Registrato dal: Feb 2009 ubicazione: Verona Messaggi: 4,419	Hallo, nice to meet everyone! Let's actualize the list: dany bonfiglioli hayla riko06 star sunnyna betti piccolino anastasia laila edha jal molisanodream starjumper erica&amy elisaP i piccy Antarctica arf woland77 aly87 matteo&martina valentina frafairy na mogwai divina maya ciao69 bricicca1 arnaldo it venerusoangelo giobi 81 tatanka1094 luca pisculli marco zach chiara.giardini m.greta Lyudmila Encheva roby e gaio sirius zattilio littlewolf fede86 denial odisseo sciamalaia robykut MariNoor amaguk ezibaby gilda ste chepi ciao69 riko06 mat littlewolf hadankama ovogibba wolflinx germans ornella vassel laila martab navarre Mikael Runningwolf z Peronoòwki michaelundinaeicchorn mijke Nebulosa Rona Americani whereas Jmvdwiel is "against of removing the dogs without ED results", but I guess not against including dogs WITH ED results, whatever the result is. Is it correct? Are we in 78 or 79? __________________ Marta & GlockArian

01-23-2010, 07:19 PM	#4
jmvdwiel Senior Member Registrato dal: Apr 2007 Messaggi: 1,061	I don't think you need anaesthesia for the elbows (with a normal dog )

01-26-2010, 06:46 PM	#7
sciamalaia Senior Member Registrato dal: Jul 2009 ubicazione: Mestre Messaggi: 2,300	I think we should include dogs with any results of ED in the list and not to exclude people who do not have the results yet. I think it is better to know that hiding, since it is not an official list of a specific club . If I'm wrong or if you do not agree please say your opinion ..

01-26-2010, 10:00 PM	#9
jmvdwiel Senior Member Registrato dal: Apr 2007 Messaggi: 1,061	Yes you are totally correct But you can call me Judith whereas Jmvdwiel is "against of removing the dogs without ED results", but I guess not against including dogs WITH ED results, whatever the result is. Is it correct?