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Old 09-12-2009, 14:21   #1
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I am absolutly sure, that Michal knows, where, when and what kind of problems his dogs has or had. My note not was attack to him, and I am sure, that from my text is it clear. But not for everybody and for fanatics

I care about all " healt problems " not only about HD or Ed, where I don´t see problem in population of CSWs - no fatal! When I am not able to see clearly klinic problems and dogs with " C " more like 7 years old is able to pass every weekend 50 km - 7 years! - the dog is healthy and x - ray and opinion one vet is for me not too much. Only info about 2 joints in whole body, what work perfec!
Congenital hearts defect , degenerative myelopathie affect quality of life fundamentally. Eyes problems not are rare, too.
And if you want so I am concrete, here is one pedigree for example of dead dog with degenerative myelopathie ( for some persons can be interesting how HD combination Michal made)
http://zmolu.vlcak.cz/Files/zdravi/D_myelopatie.pdf
Sorry, Michael but you are big fun of internet discussion, Me not, because I am sure this not deals nothing, and I am absolutly sure that everywhere - in each family and linie is something

Good night, Monika
Sorry Monika, but I still do not know what you are talking about and cannot open the link so please we would like to know which dog and which health problem!
And I want proof and evidence, maybe some veterinary report, not only gossip and lies.
I am grateful and not proud if the vast majority of our dogs is healthy, but no one can garantee 100%, of whatsoever.
I would recomment that you look also at the dogs bred by you.
A big source...

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Old 09-12-2009, 16:21   #2
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Sorry Monika, but I still do not know what you are talking about and cannot open the link so please we would like to know which dog and which health problem!
And I want proof and evidence, maybe some veterinary report, not only gossip and lies.
I am grateful and not proud if the vast majority of our dogs is healthy, but no one can garantee 100%, of whatsoever.
I would recomment that you look also at the dogs bred by you.
A big source...

Michael
http://zmolu.vlcak.cz/Files/zdravi/D_myelopatie.pdf

The name of dead dog is Amyska Zlata Palz ( ask to owner, please Michal before your attacking.)
I do not collect gossip, sorry, like big fans of woldog. org!

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Old 09-12-2009, 19:20   #3
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Hmmmmm Amyska Zlata Palz was born year 2000...

Totally there was Three dead dog of 88 dogs born between 2000-2009 in the database at the kennel Zlata Palz info, and this topic is called "Health problems by Zlata palz"

Maybe all kennels must get a Health problem topic now...
Or Is three of 88 considered to be a high number ???

Or is this just another fighting topic ???

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Old 10-12-2009, 10:59   #4
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Monika,

we know that for a long time, since the owner had contacted us.
And it's no secret...
We don't hide things or x-ray dogs somewhere else...
One out of 88 (still one too many), but I'm still grateful and humble about the little number.
Not proud.
To create health problems out of this is ridicoulos, stupid and shows in what hypocrit you turned in the recent years (more than 10 actually).
As Margo wrote it's probabely envy and your growing irrelevance as a breeder (except G and J litter), during that period.
Not to mention your Mutara involvement...
You f....d a lot of things up.
Since I don't want to create a senseless fight I stop here and don't go on the various diseases ( heart problems, epilepsy, cryptochism, ...) spread by
"z Molu es" kennel.
Don't get me wrong, I don't want to accuse you and it can probabely happen to any breeder, but due to those facts you ought to be a little bit more humble and modest.
Anyway, I hope I have clarified a few things my dear.

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Old 10-12-2009, 15:38   #5
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Monika,

we know that for a long time, since the owner had contacted us.
And it's no secret...
We don't hide things or x-ray dogs somewhere else...
One out of 88 (still one too many), but I'm still grateful and humble about the little number.
Not proud.
To create health problems out of this is ridicoulos, stupid and shows in what hypocrit you turned in the recent years (more than 10 actually).
As Margo wrote it's probabely envy and your growing irrelevance as a breeder (except G and J litter), during that period.
Not to mention your Mutara involvement...
You f....d a lot of things up.
Since I don't want to create a senseless fight I stop here and don't go on the various diseases ( heart problems, epilepsy, cryptochism, ...) spread by
"z Molu es" kennel.
Don't get me wrong, I don't want to accuse you and it can probabely happen to any breeder, but due to those facts you ought to be a little bit more humble and modest.
Anyway, I hope I have clarified a few things my dear.

Michael

Artificial problems and "causes" creates only this forum, but which is can not solve it and only further and further deepens the mutual animosity between breeders. And humility?? Would be worth talking to in other contexts and other people, just look at the some website ......

I am still same.
My view of dogs, their nature, exterior and health is quite real and keeping and breeding of CSWs is for me not a fight - the war, but no compensation of own complexes!


A Mutary?? - Please do not be ridiculous, sometimes just to listen to facts and not gossip.


Unfortunately, your words are just silly defense and proof of how irrelevant and stupid you are just yourself.

Why you speaking about kryptorchism, epilepsy and heart problems?
For example: You speaking about kryptorchizm because you know 1 kryptorchid dog in Germany ??? Hmm..you are big expert!
Kryptorchismus incidence in the general population is around 5%.
Kryptorchismus is problem, yes, but it is not life - threatening
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We are absolutly sure, that my kennel is well below this limit!
Write the name of my dog z Molu Es with epilepsy and congenital heart defect (not Hoky, please), for me it will be beneficial and useful information, thanks.
I know from which line comes from and where the epilepsy occurs more frequently than elsewhere.


Have and breed only a healthy and versatile dogs!

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Old 10-12-2009, 17:18   #6
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A Mutary?? - Please do not be ridiculous, sometimes just to listen to facts and not gossip.
Dont tell something about it, Michael and Inna, Monika have already nothing to do with Mutara. It knows everybody

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Write the name of my dog z Molu Es with epilepsy and congenital heart defect (not Hoky, please), for me it will be beneficial and useful information, thanks.
If you, Monika, just touch Hokys name - I never tax you anything in this sense, but I have just many signals, that from Hokys mother (Ajbix) comes possibily this problems. Last case is Arnarmo z Toulavého ráje.

You show self like a top breeder without problems. But everybody knows your Go-go and the way, how she get to breed. And how is it with Upstream ? Explaine, why you have buy in her puppy age the special medicins for hip joints ?
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Old 10-12-2009, 22:44   #7
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the special medicins for hip joints ?
wel... know we are talking about interesting stuf , I would really want to know what kind of a medication this is. This would be interesting for a lot of dogs with hip problems.
BTW I don't think this medication would make bad hips into medical healthy hips, maybe let them function a little bit better.

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