Report about CSW

Rona · 30-09-2009, 08:58

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...the succesfull search lasted nearly 5 hours (well that´s television I never said that, it took her 1h10 for 4,5 kms.)

Yes, that's the problem with our dogs when they track... especially when the "victim" has a stupid idea to put the trail accross a stream in a deep valley

Following the dog down and up, in the mud, at the speed of a tracking CSV may be really hazardous...

Ina, very interesting program. I wish I could watch it!

michaelundinaeichhorn · 30-09-2009, 09:17

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Originally Posted by Rona

Yes, that's the problem with our dogs when they track... especially when the "victim" has a stupid idea to put the trail accross a stream in a deep valley

Following the dog down and up, in the mud, at the speed of a tracking CSV may be really hazardous...

Ina, very interesting program. I wish I could watch it!

You (meant no special person, just in general) need to learn to act as a team then, that problem exists mainly in the beginning. Your dog needs your part in the team to show him the possibility that the trail will cross the stream and you need to learn to read the dog to see that the trail must continue on the other side.

The 25 days old trail was downtown in a very big city with crossroads with 2-3 lanes in one direction, a dog can´t do this without your help and will learn to follow your directions, like waiting at trafficlights and wait to cross the street until you allow to continue.

By the way there is a great difference between tracking and trailing, in tracking you follow footsteps and the damage they do to the ground, in trailing you follow the microscopic partikels we all loose in the thousands every minute and that are blown over the ground following thermic sensations what is the reason that a trailer will be much faster but mostly not exactly on the track of the person he follows.

Rona · 30-09-2009, 10:03

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Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn

You (meant no special person, just in general) need to learn to act as a team then, that problem exists mainly in the beginning. Your dog needs your part in the team to show him the possibility that the trail will cross the stream and you need to learn to read the dog to see that the trail must continue on the other side.

Lorka is very young, just begins working with her nose.... Finding a 2 hr trail on the other side of the stream was not a bit of a problem for her, but the pace at which she did it was a problem for me

We have to work on synchronizing our "fitness".

Anyway, thanks for the comments. We still need to learn a lot, but it's fun!

saschia · 30-09-2009, 11:17

Hi Ina, great job, I am very sorry I couldn't watch it in TV. And I am sorry about it not being posted on net to watch... I was hoping for a material for the CSV presentation at the world dog show...

michaelundinaeichhorn · 30-09-2009, 11:22

Hello Saschia,

we will get the DVD and even if it doesn´t arrive in time there is a TV-copy available. You even can by the DVD for private use only. To show the DVD on a show is not really commercial I will anyway call the TV-company and ask if we are allowed to show it on your show and maybe iin the internet on a private site.
If not I will try to get an own one with my camera but time is a problem at the moment. But we will arrive at Wendesday afternoon and if you really need it we can maybe make one in Bratislava.

saschia · 30-09-2009, 11:45

That would be great, Ina. Any material you give me to present at the show would be greatly appreciated, and if you'll have time and energy to make it in Bratislava, I am ready to help.

michaelundinaeichhorn · 30-09-2009, 11:53

I just called the head of the filmteam and he thinks it should be somewhere as a film, he will ask for the link and call me back.
We are not allowed to show the DVD and nobody will get a permission, he is really sorry for that but can´t help it.

So I will try to find time and people to do it here or we will meet in Bratislava - we will need a PC also when we do it there and at least one more person.

I would really like to show it because I think this is what this breed is born for and in which it is one of the best. And I find it much mor sensible to concentrate on this abilities than to concentrate everything on the IPO-sport part where they will never be on the top.

Mikael · 01-10-2009, 17:09

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Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn

You even can by the DVD for private use only.

Excellent I wont to buy the DVD

where and how do I do this

And remember I do not know any German

Therefor a German website might be hard for me to understand...

Very best regards / Mikael

michaelundinaeichhorn · 01-10-2009, 17:19

You can do it here and most Germans, especially those working for the medias speak at least some English http://www.swr.de/unternehmen/mitsch...h7x/index.html

But the spot is also on German and though the search lasted one hour is the whole spot some minutes. I think we will make a film in Bratislava and show it here in the net. I think we shouldn´t do one hour, that will get boring for everybody who doesn´t trail but simply some difficult searches of about 1km .

30-09-2009, 11:17	#4
saschia Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bratislava Posts: 936	Hi Ina, great job, I am very sorry I couldn't watch it in TV. And I am sorry about it not being posted on net to watch... I was hoping for a material for the CSV presentation at the world dog show... __________________ Saschia (Sasa Zahradnikova) http://www.chiens-loup-tchecoslovaqu...ei-et-damon.ws

30-09-2009, 11:45	#6
saschia Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bratislava Posts: 936	That would be great, Ina. Any material you give me to present at the show would be greatly appreciated, and if you'll have time and energy to make it in Bratislava, I am ready to help. __________________ Saschia (Sasa Zahradnikova) http://www.chiens-loup-tchecoslovaqu...ei-et-damon.ws

30-09-2009, 11:53	#7
michaelundinaeichhorn Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bad Dürkheim Posts: 2,249	I just called the head of the filmteam and he thinks it should be somewhere as a film, he will ask for the link and call me back. We are not allowed to show the DVD and nobody will get a permission, he is really sorry for that but can´t help it. So I will try to find time and people to do it here or we will meet in Bratislava - we will need a PC also when we do it there and at least one more person. I would really like to show it because I think this is what this breed is born for and in which it is one of the best. And I find it much mor sensible to concentrate on this abilities than to concentrate everything on the IPO-sport part where they will never be on the top. Last edited by michaelundinaeichhorn; 30-09-2009 at 12:01.

30-09-2009, 11:22	#5
michaelundinaeichhorn Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bad Dürkheim Posts: 2,249	Hello Saschia, we will get the DVD and even if it doesn´t arrive in time there is a TV-copy available. You even can by the DVD for private use only. To show the DVD on a show is not really commercial I will anyway call the TV-company and ask if we are allowed to show it on your show and maybe iin the internet on a private site. If not I will try to get an own one with my camera but time is a problem at the moment. But we will arrive at Wendesday afternoon and if you really need it we can maybe make one in Bratislava.

01-10-2009, 17:19	#9
michaelundinaeichhorn Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bad Dürkheim Posts: 2,249	You can do it here and most Germans, especially those working for the medias speak at least some English http://www.swr.de/unternehmen/mitsch...h7x/index.html But the spot is also on German and though the search lasted one hour is the whole spot some minutes. I think we will make a film in Bratislava and show it here in the net. I think we shouldn´t do one hour, that will get boring for everybody who doesn´t trail but simply some difficult searches of about 1km .