Information about the list of the stud

Kerstin · 22-07-09, 09:26

Hello, I think it is confusing because there are different rules in each country.
There are countries where you do not need bonitation to have a stud dog. Or you do not need ED results. In the end each owner has to decide whats important for him/her. I think it is great to have this information availible- it is just up to me, what I do with it.

And when I find a good dog I can still ask the owner about what I want or need.

Maybe it would be interesting, what it takes to have a stud dog in the different countries of europe? What the rules are? Then you can decide if it makes sense, or not

or if you want more or less.

Regards,
Kerstin

Ricky's Wolf · 22-07-09, 11:41

Thanks for the answers.
I think that it is true (as Kerstin says) that it is the ower of the female of dog to ask other information however if it is interested to a stallion.
But it is true also that the list of the stud of this site is also a list that directly or indirectly publicizes a dog.

They must be us of the requisite to insert a male dog in this list and they agree.
But the requisite must be correct and equivalent for everybody.
Lately a male dog has been removed in the Italian list with official results HD A and ED 0-1. Motive (perhaps) is because the dog to 1 elbow is not 0 but he is 1. Only 1.
Ok if the laws are this the laws they must have respected.
But the laws must be correct for all!
Why a dog with HD A and ED have 0-1 (almost perfect) been removed while they are continuing to be us dogs Without official results of ED?

If the results of the elbows are very important and fundamental, they must be important for all the dogs. Should not be the dogs without results of the elbows, or I am crazy to think this normal consequence to a law?

Why dogs are there with HD C? What equal is to the 1 of the ED...

For me is not correct.

I hope to be explains well me

I ask at all if somebody know other information about this situation.
And if somebody write what think about all this situation.
Regards from Rome

massimo · 22-07-09, 12:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Runningwolf

Lately a male dog has been removed in the Italian list with official results HD A and ED 0-1. Motive (perhaps) is because the dog to 1 elbow is not 0 but he is 1. Only 1.
Ok if the laws are this the laws they must have respected.
But the laws must be correct for all!
Why a dog with HD A and ED have 0-1 (almost perfect) been removed while they are continuing to be us dogs Without official results of ED?

Riccardo, i don't think the ED 0-1 is the reason a dog is removed from studlist.
There surely is a different reason.
Margo will reply to you about it as soon as possible (i suppose...)
massimo

Ricky's Wolf · 29-07-09, 11:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by massimo

Riccardo, i don't think the ED 0-1 is the reason a dog is removed from studlist.
There surely is a different reason.
Margo will reply to you about it as soon as possible (i suppose...)
massimo

Massimo I'm agree with you, in fact I'm waiting for an answer.

Is Strange however that of all the people that live this world of ours and that they live ours beautiful website anybody has not almost answered...

I'm waiting....

Ricky's Wolf · 24-08-09, 15:48

Hello,
I'm still waiting for an answer from the persons responsible of the site.

Juniorwolf · 24-08-09, 17:57

Ciao Riccardo,

This is ONLY a private website and owners can do what ever they like, not that I agree with this example, but when websites are private(even if it seems to be an official and objective website), it is almost impossible not to make their own politic and personal dislikes influence the shaping of their website which in my opinion is a shame for this site as it in many other aspects seems to be equal for all.

I know for example that Czech breedingcommitee(still waiting for answer from Slovak breedingcommitee) have no problems with Italian, Slovak, German, Poland, etc. bonitations or HD/ED results, ONLY the owners here on this private site choose to make it a problem

Too bad that new owners and people who don`t seek answers elsewere(official sources), will actually belive all what is written here is facts.

Greetings Rolf

massimo · 26-08-09, 12:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by massimo

What is written here is very interesting and new to me.
If this is the decision of the administration of Wolfdog.org, let it be (i'm not sooo much against it actually)
But, I kindly ask the Admin if it's possible to write, for more and better knowledge of the viewers, the criteria used to make the list and what makes you be excluded.
Also... could the Admin kindly state if ALL the dogs included in the list have HD results sent to Wolfdog.org (as always requested in the past?) or just ... announced by email from the owner.
Thanks
Massimo

Please can somebody answer to my question?

Navarre · 27-08-09, 17:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolf

Was this not the reason why Admin made this step, to remove all dogs with ED ? ...aparrently it is for no reason, unless all dogs with HD is removed too !

They can be what they want, BUT to be honest there should be some REQUIREMENTS that are the same for all, not changing anytime.

If the requirement (right or wrong) to be in the stud list is the ED 0 exam, every dog without this exam should be removed together with dogs that don't fulfill this requirement.

22-07-09, 09:26	#1
Kerstin Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Hessen Posts: 317	Hello, I think it is confusing because there are different rules in each country. There are countries where you do not need bonitation to have a stud dog. Or you do not need ED results. In the end each owner has to decide whats important for him/her. I think it is great to have this information availible- it is just up to me, what I do with it. And when I find a good dog I can still ask the owner about what I want or need. Maybe it would be interesting, what it takes to have a stud dog in the different countries of europe? What the rules are? Then you can decide if it makes sense, or not or if you want more or less. Regards, Kerstin __________________

22-07-09, 11:41	#2
Ricky's Wolf Distinguished Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2939	Thanks for the answers. I think that it is true (as Kerstin says) that it is the ower of the female of dog to ask other information however if it is interested to a stallion. But it is true also that the list of the stud of this site is also a list that directly or indirectly publicizes a dog. They must be us of the requisite to insert a male dog in this list and they agree. But the requisite must be correct and equivalent for everybody. Lately a male dog has been removed in the Italian list with official results HD A and ED 0-1. Motive (perhaps) is because the dog to 1 elbow is not 0 but he is 1. Only 1. Ok if the laws are this the laws they must have respected. But the laws must be correct for all! Why a dog with HD A and ED have 0-1 (almost perfect) been removed while they are continuing to be us dogs Without official results of ED? If the results of the elbows are very important and fundamental, they must be important for all the dogs. Should not be the dogs without results of the elbows, or I am crazy to think this normal consequence to a law? Why dogs are there with HD C? What equal is to the 1 of the ED... For me is not correct. I hope to be explains well me I ask at all if somebody know other information about this situation. And if somebody write what think about all this situation. Regards from Rome Last edited by Ricky's Wolf : 22-07-09 at 11:48

24-08-09, 15:48	#5
Ricky's Wolf Distinguished Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2939	Hello, I'm still waiting for an answer from the persons responsible of the site.

24-08-09, 17:57	#6
Juniorwolf Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 575	Ciao Riccardo, This is ONLY a private website and owners can do what ever they like, not that I agree with this example, but when websites are private(even if it seems to be an official and objective website), it is almost impossible not to make their own politic and personal dislikes influence the shaping of their website which in my opinion is a shame for this site as it in many other aspects seems to be equal for all. I know for example that Czech breedingcommitee(still waiting for answer from Slovak breedingcommitee) have no problems with Italian, Slovak, German, Poland, etc. bonitations or HD/ED results, ONLY the owners here on this private site choose to make it a problem Too bad that new owners and people who don`t seek answers elsewere(official sources), will actually belive all what is written here is facts. Greetings Rolf