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Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Kraków
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If a carpathian wolf blood (because CSV stems from a hybrid of GSD and a CARPATHIAN WOLF!) is to be added to the breed genetic pool: 1. a proper, at least 20-30 year project should be designed, discussed and agreed upon by above mentioned experts and legal authorities including FCI! 2. clear objectives of the project should be stated and made public and transparent 3. institution or a group of people (?) legally responsible for the project implementation would have to be appointed 4. an international "control board" should be appointed. 3. massive funds should be raised/sposnsors found (?) for this purpose including: - foundation of a wofldog park, where all hybrids that for various reasons would not used for further breeding would find shelter and could lead decent lives, - opening of a training station where the "hybrids" would be intensly trained and tested. Only these creatures that pass tough exams and fulfil other tough appearance, character and health criteria could be used for further breeding - well equiped vet clinic should be opened /appointed where the dogs should be carefully examined, also towards genetic diseases. Still one should be aware that there will be high costs of such an "exepriment": e.g. a fresh wolf blood insertion into CSV breed may lead to further bans of the breed in the countries like UK, Sweden etc., I belive that any other ways of mixbreeding CSV with wolves is amateur, secretive, unprofessional and thus wrong -whether conducted in the UK, France, Italy or the Czech Republic (the Mutaragate) or wherever. |
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Join Date: Dec 2007
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Yes I agree, but we was not talking about CsV blood lines, only if it is right or not to use a pure CsV in mixing whit wolf to create a new breed... FCI say NO, but Paul lives in UK and aperantly it is OK by DEFRA or UK law to mix wolves X dog or Wolves X wolfdog... ![]() But it has nothing to do whit CsV as a breed as non of this offsprings will ever be CsV, like whit the mutara... But as I say again, in my opinion NO new mixing whit wolves is necessary to create a new breed, but if I think like you, it is to be done by experts in cross breeding only !!! Best regards / Mikael
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But I remember somebody mentioning here (though I don't remember who exactly it was) that a further wolfblood should be added to the CSV breed to avoid inbreeding and heredic diseases. I don't know if the person (people?) were correct or not, but I wanted to point out how dificult and complicated the task and process would be if even average scientific, ethical, legal and moral (humane) standards are to be met. |
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![]() ![]() But I do not expect it to be easy at all, it will be like to start over again... Hard, expensive and take long time. But for me it does not have to be a new line whit wolf, it can also be a CsV to GSD, but that is a nother topic i think... Best regards / Mikael
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I am speaking of all breeds, not only CSW. ...I will repeat my self again : if you are a recognized breeder(of any breed), you should not use your pedigree dogs to create mixes/crosses, as a recognized breeder, you should work for the better of the breed which you are a registered breeder for ![]() Example : you are recognized breeder of CSW, then you should only breed your CSW`s with other CSW`s, but if you have another dog(which is not part of your recognized kennel, does`nt matter what breed or mix/cross) then it would, for me, be okey to mix/cross it with what ever you like, as this will not effect your moral obligations to the breed which you as a recognized breeder should work for the better of your breed. This is regulations of Danish kennel club and I fully agree with this ![]() In other words if you keep your recognized kennel dogs apart from your "hobby" dogs, then it is no problem. ![]() In Denmark it only possible to get pedigree on puppies, where both parrents have FCI recognized pedigree. Greetings Rolf Last edited by Juniorwolf; 09-03-2009 at 20:40. Reason: more text |
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