Northern inuit dog

[Mikael]

Originally Posted by rolf

Bonitation is a good thing because of meassuring and judgement of exterier, but the character-test at bonitation is just as useless as dogshows-results ...I hope the character-test at bonitation will be better sometime in the future ?

Greetings Rolf

Good that I will do a Swedish MH test to then,
but I do not know about its quality internationall ???

Have you done the Danish MH test on Uno ???

If... how is it in comparison whit the bonitation´s MH test ???

Regards / Mikael

[Juniorwolf]

Originally Posted by Mikael

Good that I will do a Swedish MH test to then,
but I do not know about its quality internationall ???

Have you done the Danish MH test on Uno ???

If... how is it in comparison whit the bonitation´s MH test ???

Regards / Mikael

MH = Mental Health ?

I have not done any Mental Health/Character-test in Denmark with Uno and we have no rules for CSW saying that we should...
But I know how is works and it is much more complex than the character-test at bonitation, I think the most easy for me will be to explain how character-test at bonitation is done in Czech rep. :

First you have your dog on the leash and walk up to one person, shakes hands with the person and 3 other persons will join you in a way that you and your dog will stand in the middel of the 4 persons.
Then you put your dog on a chain which is attached to a pole and stand next to the dog, then a figurant walks by you and your dog, then the figurant turn around and make contact with your dog(letting the dog sniff his hand), the figurant is walking away, then he turn around and run towards you and your dog simulating an attack with a stick in his hand, then you go away and out of sight for your dog and the figurant do the same once again, but this time the dog is alone. ...thats all !!!

Ofcourse the dog should be relaxed, when figurant is walking by and it should be happy to greet the figurant when he makes contact, when the figurant simulate an attack, the dog should defend you and it selves.

Greetings Rolf

[Mikael]

Originally Posted by rolf

MH = Mental Health ?

I have not done any Mental Health/Character-test in Denmark with Uno and we have no rules for CSW saying that we should...
But I know how is works and it is much more complex than the character-test at bonitation, I think the most easy for me will be to explain how character-test at bonitation is done in Czech rep. :

You put your dog on a chain which is attached to a pole and stand next to the dog, then a figurant walks by you and your dog, then the figurant turn around and make contact with your dog(letting the dog sniff his hand), the figurant is walking away, then he turn around and run towards you and your dog simulating an attack with a stick in his hand, then you go away and out of sight for your dog and the figurant do the same once again, but this time the dog is alone. ...thats all !!!

Greetings Rolf

Yes sorry, MH test = Mental Health test

Hmmmmm... But this bonitation character test is something you can train your dog to be good at, not realy a real character test

But maby it is just to test if the dog is very shy ???

And I´m far of topic again, SORRY

regards / Mikael

[Juniorwolf]

Originally Posted by Mikael

Yes sorry, MH test = Mental Health test

Hmmmmm... But this bonitation character test is something you can train your dog to be good at, not realy a real character test

But maby it is just to test if the dog is very shy ???

And I´m far of topic again, SORRY

regards / Mikael

I agree and that is why the character-test at bonitation is worth nothing(or very little), but meassures is still importent

Greetings Rolf

[saschia]

Originally Posted by rolf

I agree and that is why the character-test at bonitation is worth nothing(or very little), but meassures is still importent

I don't think it is completely valueless. You can see extremely shy/aggresive dogs, which are needed to be put out of the breeding, and of course the behavior during measurement should be taken into account of the character.

Moreover, good judge can clearly see if the behavior at the pole is only hard-learned or is natural to the dog. It is actually not important that the dog defends agaist the figurant, it just has to show that it is not scared, often really good charactered dog will just step away from the guy, because they see that he is actually not dangerous. It is how the dog responds, moves, etc, that is evaluated (or should be), it's body language really tells a lot to experienced judge. What I see as a problem though is that the situation needs to be learned (that the dog stays alone somewhere, that there may be people around etc.) and this is sometimes a problem - if you cannot leave your dog somewhere alone for whatever reason (it can get stolen, harmed or in the other extreme taken away by dog rescue), it is not used to it and this affects really much how the dog behaves during the test. But this is different topic.

How does the MH exam look like?

[Juniorwolf]

Originally Posted by saschia

How does the MH exam look like?

I make new thread for this

Greetings Rolf