Worlddogshow 2010

Hanka · 30-12-2008, 11:04

hi hi hi ,yes. but it is problem of more countries. I think almost all countries

Vaiva · 30-12-2008, 11:07

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Originally Posted by Hanka

hi hi hi ,yes. but it is problem of more countries. I think almost all countries

You mean judges? Well, yes, but most of the breeds have this problem

Especially rare ones, like wolfdogs...

Juniorwolf · 30-12-2008, 18:50

Maybe if many CSW will come, Danish Kennel Klub will put more effort in finding good/experienced jugdes for our breed at future dogshows in Denmark, so far maximum 2-3 CSW have been at a dogshow in same time in Denmark and most of the times it was my 2 CSW`s...

Greetings Rolf

Nebelwölfe · 31-12-2008, 00:00

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Originally Posted by rolf

Maybe if many CSW will come, Danish Kennel Klub will put more effort in finding good/experienced jugdes for our breed at future dogshows in Denmark, ...

In Germany we hope for this since yyyyyyears...

Juniorwolf · 31-12-2008, 00:50

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In Germany we hope for this since yyyyyyears...

Well maybe I am just optimistic ? but I really can`t blame Danish Kennel Klub for not putting much effort in this, when only 3-4 foreign CSW`s have visited dogshows in Denmark in the last 10 years or so and usually there is only me with my dog(now two dogs), if things was different I had a reason to complain, but for the moment I accually do understand them ...not that I agree with them !

I can`t speak about the situation in Germany, because I know nothing about it ! ...but can special club( Club für Tschechoslowakische Wolfshunde Deutschland) not put pressure on the German kennel club ? you have so many more induviduals in Germany, compared to Denmark(4 members in our special club and only me who is active = showing and training for exams).

Greetings Rolf

michaelundinaeichhorn · 31-12-2008, 10:57

No, we can´t do much about it. The situation got a little bit better because some judges got interested in the breed. But still there are misjudgements. On international shows the popular breeds have chances to get competent ones, the small breeds get a judge that has some spare time left.
After two years of absolutely horrible judgements in Dormund I and I think some more people complained about the judge not following the standart (eyes were to yellow or light, all dogs were wrongly ankeled, tailes were to short....) after that we got 2-3 years at least German judges who tried their very best.
We are only allowed to train own specialized judges when we are an official VDH-Club that can rule the breeding itself, we are fighting for that at the moment but because we don´t have enough different lines we have a wainting period now for some time and hopefully are succesfull the next time.

The Slowakian Kennel Club has produced a training DVD for judges where they show on examples how a dog should look like and how it shouldn´t.

But this is the reason why we normally don´t show on world dog shows with judges we don´t know very well and ask judges out of countries of origin for our Club shows. It also is the reason why people who know the breed very well don´t care at all about international titles like world champion.

Ina

Juniorwolf · 31-12-2008, 15:27

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Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn

No, we can´t do much about it. The situation got a little bit better because some judges got interested in the breed.

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Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn

We are only allowed to train own specialized judges when we are an official VDH-Club that can rule the breeding itself, we are fighting for that at the moment but because we don´t have enough different lines we have a wainting period now for some time and hopefully are succesfull the next time.

So there is hope for a better future

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Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn

But this is the reason why we normally don´t show on world dog shows with judges we don´t know very well and ask judges out of countries of origin for our Club shows. It also is the reason why people who know the breed very well don´t care at all about international titles like world champion.

World dog shows, international dog shows or national dog shows is all good opportunities to spread the knowledge of our breed to judges and the public, so in the future they will have bigger interest in our wonderful breed

I think the dog shows is a really good way to make people aware of our breed and this is why I show my dogs at many dog shows(world dog show is even better because many people will come), every day I meet people who do not know of the existence of our breed also on dog shows there is many people who see our breed for the first time ....even when I have been in Czech rep., Slovakia or Italy people stop me in the streets to ask about this breed, so when more people will know of our breed we can expect more interest from kennel clubs and judges and hopefully have better/more competent judges in the future

Greetings Rolf

GalomyOak · 31-12-2008, 16:45

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Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn

The Slowakian Kennel Club has produced a training DVD for judges where they show on examples how a dog should look like and how it shouldn´t.

Do you know if it is possible to purchase this DVD? I think something like this could be very helpful to the judges over here on the "lonely AKC/UKC island"

. They are all very curious here...most are alerted by the host club before the show that they will be judging their first CSV - several, after they have gotten over their initial fear of the word "wolf", and actually meet the dogs - say to me that they have tried to "do their homework", and learn about the breed before the show. This sounds like a great tool...

Here's a toast to 2009!

Marcy

Mikael · 31-12-2008, 14:36

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Originally Posted by rolf

Well maybe I am just optimistic ? but I really can`t blame Danish Kennel Klub for not putting much effort in this, when only 3-4 foreign CSW`s have visited dogshows in Denmark in the last 10 years or so and usually there is only me with my dog(now two dogs), if things was different I had a reason to complain, but for the moment I accually do understand them ...not that I agree with them !

Greetings Rolf

I think there will be over 30 CsV in Danmark 2010

by looking at how many CsV that did come to Sweden in 2008.

Regards / Mikael

Juniorwolf · 31-12-2008, 15:30

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Originally Posted by Mikael

I think there will be over 30 CsV in Danmark 2010

by looking at how many CsV that did come to Sweden in 2008.

Regards / Mikael

I hope as many as possible will come and show their dogs and by doing that help spread the knowledge of our fantastic breed

Counting on you Mikael in 2010

Greetings Rolf

30-12-2008, 11:04	#1
Hanka Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Kadaň Posts: 1,622	hi hi hi ,yes. but it is problem of more countries. I think almost all countries

30-12-2008, 18:50	#3
Juniorwolf Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 575	Maybe if many CSW will come, Danish Kennel Klub will put more effort in finding good/experienced jugdes for our breed at future dogshows in Denmark, so far maximum 2-3 CSW have been at a dogshow in same time in Denmark and most of the times it was my 2 CSW`s... Greetings Rolf

31-12-2008, 10:57	#6
michaelundinaeichhorn Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bad Dürkheim Posts: 2,249	No, we can´t do much about it. The situation got a little bit better because some judges got interested in the breed. But still there are misjudgements. On international shows the popular breeds have chances to get competent ones, the small breeds get a judge that has some spare time left. After two years of absolutely horrible judgements in Dormund I and I think some more people complained about the judge not following the standart (eyes were to yellow or light, all dogs were wrongly ankeled, tailes were to short....) after that we got 2-3 years at least German judges who tried their very best. We are only allowed to train own specialized judges when we are an official VDH-Club that can rule the breeding itself, we are fighting for that at the moment but because we don´t have enough different lines we have a wainting period now for some time and hopefully are succesfull the next time. The Slowakian Kennel Club has produced a training DVD for judges where they show on examples how a dog should look like and how it shouldn´t. But this is the reason why we normally don´t show on world dog shows with judges we don´t know very well and ask judges out of countries of origin for our Club shows. It also is the reason why people who know the breed very well don´t care at all about international titles like world champion. Ina