CSV breed landscape

[Juniorwolf]

Originally Posted by Mikael

But what does the number after the name mean "(2181196)" ??????

The numbers must be all descendants from the dog(puppies, puppies from puppies, etc.).

Greetings Rolf

[Mikael]

Originally Posted by rolf

The numbers must be all descendants from the dog(puppies, puppies from puppies, etc.).

Greetings Rolf

That was what I was thinking at first...
But Brita cant have had 2,99 Million descendants on a breed on totaly 7500 individuals in the world today...

Or am I wrong

Regards / Mikael

[GalomyOak]

Originally Posted by Mikael

That was what I was thinking at first...
But Brita cant have had 2,99 Million descendants on a breed on totaly 7500 individuals in the world today...

Or am I wrong

Regards / Mikael

Maybe not only descendents, but also the times breeding affected descendents - like if one dog was the grandfather on both sides because of inbreeding. This would be very high for Brita and the other 3 wolves, but also for the earliest dogs. I'm not sure if I explained that clearly enough...

All of the best,
Marcy

[Juniorwolf]

Originally Posted by wildenmorgen

Maybe not only descendents, but also the times breeding affected descendents - like if one dog was the grandfather on both sides because of inbreeding. This would be very high for Brita and the other 3 wolves, but also for the earliest dogs. I'm not sure if I explained that clearly enough...

All of the best,
Marcy

This was what I was trying to say(sometimes I should think twice before writing)
In other words : the number is how many times the dog will show up in pedigrees all the way back to the beginning of the breed

Greetings Rolf

[Mikael]

Originally Posted by rolf

This was what I was trying to say(sometimes I should think twice before writing)
In other words : the number is how many times the dog will show up in pedigrees all the way back to the beginning of the breed

Greetings Rolf

But 2,99 Million ???

Still confused, regards / Mikael

[Juniorwolf]

well I guess by now Brita will be in all living CSW`s pedigree(more than once) and the breed started back in 1955, so even that only about 7500 CSW`s are living now, a lot more is dead, which also have Brita in their pedigree(more than once).

If you try counting some of the dogs with small numbers it fits,
But I guess that we must wait for Elf to answer on this ?

Greetings Rolf

[elf]

the number is how many times the dog will show up in pedigrees all the way back to the beginning of the breed

This is this number.
I built full pedigree, this means that due to inbreeding the full pedigree tree can be really huge (there is 2^N entries for depth N). I checked for bug but did not find (I can post the code if one want to check).

Thoughts:

- Interesting point, I guess you all see the "shift" the breed took in the newer years...

- Other interesting point, Rep z Pohraniční stráže (0.544571871203%) is in all pedigree of living CsV would be interesting to check dog with lower % and check for dogs doesn't appear in all pedigree (and proportions), this would give a "discriminant separating" point for nowadays "lines".