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Old 07-12-2008, 21:50   #1
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hej!
I´ll send you a pm - and I´ll try in Danish
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Old 08-12-2008, 14:48   #2
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I´ll send you a pm - and I´ll try in Danish
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Thanks for your pm ...I see no secrets in your message, so why did`nt you just post it here ?

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Old 08-12-2008, 18:00   #3
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No, Rolf, I really do not have secrets to share in the www - lol. But it´s a bit boring to repeat myself because there´s the same topic in the German forum http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showthread.php?t=9686 If you speak German or know a google translator you´ll find Margo´s statement (# 41) about Italian bonitations aso. I share her opinion.

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Old 08-12-2008, 22:16   #4
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No, Rolf, I really do not have secrets to share in the www - lol. But it´s a bit boring to repeat myself because there´s the same topic in the German forum http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showthr...76465&langid=4 If you speak German or know a google translator you´ll find Margo´s statement (# 41) about Italian bonitations aso. I share her opinion.

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sorry but the link you posted don`t work ?
I have been reading about bonitation in the "differences in bonitation" thread and found out that the only difference in Italian bonitation from others bonitations is that the dogs is not alone during the charactertest, but there is still not answered directly on the question if "the Italian bonitations is recognized as valid by clubs of origin" or if it is only at wolfdog.org they are not recognized ?

I speak and read only very little German language

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Old 09-12-2008, 01:35   #5
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sorry but the link you posted don`t work ?
Yes, I know. I corrected it again - obviously I´m too blond
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Old 09-12-2008, 04:02   #6
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Yes, I know. I corrected it again - obviously I´m too blond
Thanks for the 2th correction
But I still did not get any explanation from this thread regarding why(and if) Italian bonitations is officially not recognized as valid by Cz and Sk breedingcommittee`s or if it is only on wolfdog.org ? as Massimo also have asked about in the thread "differences in bonitations" ....maybe Hanka who is member of Cz breedingcommittee can bring some light on this question ?

If this is a fact, that Italian bonitations is not recognized as valid, I fully understand your statement ....except the part with Italian dogs(this is out of porportions I think).

Please keep an open mind

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Old 09-12-2008, 11:19   #7
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Die Korungsergebnisse sind nicht ins Datenbank eigetragen, weil laut tschechischen und slowakischen Regeln NUR die Korungen anerkannt sind, die zu den in CZ und SK VERGLEICHBAR sind. Italieniesche Korung erfullt es leider nicht. Fabio (und ein paar andere Zuchter) haben ein grosses Problem mit den Charaktertest gehabt (seien wir ehrlich - fast keine Hunde von ihm wurden den Charaktertest bestehen). Er hat also darum gesorgt, dass der Charaktertest gestrichen wurde, so dass auch extremm scheue Hunde in der Lage sind, sehr gute Noten zu bekommen....
Margo wrote: According to czech and slowakian rules bonitations (in other countries) are only approved, if they are comparable to the ones in Slovakia and Czech Republic. Italian bonitations do not fullfill the requirements. Therfore the results are not listed in database. Fabio (and some other breeders) do have a big problem with test of character (to be honest - hardly any of their dogs would pass this test). He therefore took care, that test of character in Italy was removed from bonitation - so that extremly shy dogs also could get good bonitation codes.
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