Europa Show Budapest 03.-05.10.2008

[canislupus]

Originally Posted by wolfin

i be very happy to see all in HU

me too...

see you soon
Tanja and Pack

[jasmine]

Klubshow 03.10 judge: Boris Spolaaric

Puppy class male:

Nork von Neckartal : very promising
Crying Wolf C'Orel : very promising
Crying Wolf Callisto Dante: disq

young class male:

Hargo L'Amico del Lupo: ex1,HPJ,Young KlubWinner
Udini Passo del Lupo:ex2
Crying Wolf Zulu: ex3

intermediet class male:

Blue de la Louve Blanche : ex1,CAC
Crying Wolf West:ex2,R.CAC

open class male:

Dryas L'Amico del Lupo : ex.1,CAC
Gass Passo del Lupo : ex2. R.CAC
Crying Wolf Ukko: ex3

champion class male:
Cnaytuk Passo del Lupo : ex.1,CAC,Klubwinner
Collin z verne smesky: ex2., R.CAC

puppy class female:
Crying Wolf Czeska: very promising

young class female:

Crying Wolf Zelma: ex1,HPJ,Young klubwinner,BOB
Arimminium Moonlight Serenade: ex2

intermediet class female:
Mona von Neckartal: ex1,CAC
Crying Wolf Utu: ex2., R.CAC

open class female:

Breezwolf : ex1.CAC,Klubwinner
Arys z Oravy: ex2., R.CAC
Myra von Neckartal: ex

working class female:
Arimminium Asha: ex1., CAC

champion class female:

Alud : ex1.,CAC

breeding paar 2: Zelma+Zulu Crying Wolf

[jasmine]

Europa Show Budapest judge: Stefan Stefik

puppy class male : Nork von Neckartal: very promising, best puppy

young class male:

Hargo L'Amico Lupo : HPJ,Young European Winner
Amore Mio Srdvervac : ex2
Ckinai de la Louve Blanche: ex3
Crying Wolf Yarl Yanatos: ex4
Udini Passo del Lupo : ex
Czambor z Vlchio Dubu: ex
Crying Wolf Yam: very good

intermediet class male:

Blue de la LOuve Blanche: CAC,CACIB, EUCH
Ckoo Mah Akk de la Mollyniere de Lo'Cale: R.CAC
Crying Wolf West: ex3
Veron z Molu Es: ex4
Calel du Center Club Moloss Wolf: very good
Hron Zlata Palz: very good
Velaskes z Molu Es: very good

open class male:

Crying Wolf Volos: CAC,R.CACIB
Dryas: R.CAC
Art z Viktorinej Zahrady: ex3
CRying Wolf Ukko: ex4
Arimminium Timberwolf: ex
Gass Passo del Lupo:ex

Champion class male:

Cnaytuk Passo del Lupo: very good
Collin z verné smecky: very good
Crying Wolf Galiba: very good
Geryon z Peronowki: very good
Hero od Uhoste: very good

veteran class male:

Jerry Lee z Molu Es: CAC,Best veteran

Young class female:

Helena Oscar Dór: HPJ,Young European Winner, Best Young dog
Crying Wolf Zelma: ex2
Arimminium Moonlight Serenade: ex3
Arimminium Naboo: very good
Arimminium Odette: very good
Cyrcee de la LOuve Blanche: very good
Aliaska Srdcerverac: very good
Uny von Königs Terry: very good
Wolfish Witch z Molu Es: very good

Intermediet class female:

Morgana Passo del Lupo: CAC
Julie von Könis Terry: very good
Mona von Neckartal: very good
Valkyra z Molu Es: very good

Open class female:

Breez Wolf: CAC
Gabina Krivoklatsky Atos: very good
Selly Passo del Lupo: very good

Working class female:

Arimminium Asha: CAC

Champion class female:

Alud Lupimax: CAC,CACIB,BOB
Caya Zlata Palz: R.CAC
Birba: ex3
Harmonia Eden Severu: ex4

[wolfin]

Thanks for very beautiful dog show. super organization, ring anr ring work. me very like

maybe have photo from HU? and maybe others who make photo cann wright links to photo?

regards

[jasmine]

I thought you made some pics .....
and maybe Daniela....and Nina......
So please girls,let's share your pics with us

Daiva,

Thanks for your nice word! The organization could have been better: especial to reach the parking place.The other part were much better than I thought.

Edit

[Mikael]

Congratulation to everybody that is satisfied whit there results

I also looking forward to se some photos

Regards / Mikael

[lupis]

Originally Posted by wolfin

Thanks for very beautiful dog show. super organization, ring anr ring work. me very like

super organization? you were in budapest because what you write is not true... it is worst show i see because no parking place, no people speak english. only hungary. problem to find ring and also judgement i not like because for me it is wrong if you can buy good results. i also no like evaluation. many good dogs have very good note and some not good dogs have excellent. i not think blue is real winner because i see much more dog look much more wolf. for me much nice was gass, volos and cnaytuk. for me blue is to much normal dog for be european winner. same alud - for me was much worst like other female i see.
i not understand very good notes. jasmine write in italy forum judge evaluate character but it is not true. not all dogs in champion class was shy but all have very good. and it class was much more nice like champion class female. and all female are excellent. and in this class alud is shy and she is winner. i see also fat female with very less wolf look. but judge give it female also excellent. not normal for me.
in final i agree hargo and helena was very much typical wolf looking. but european winner like alud and blue were not high quality like other dogs and females i see in budapest. but i know alud must win and it is planed. not first time you know.

[wolfin]

hmm i NOT see problems, I not have problems with hungary speak. but I all thime not have problems.
for me like show.
judge- all judge have hes opinion about breed, if I judge maybe for You like me judge opinion, but others people say - she is not good judge.

and p.s. this fat bitch not wolfish is world winner ...

[lupis]

Originally Posted by wolfin

and p.s. this fat bitch not wolfish is world winner ...

world winner? not possible... sorry...

[michaelundinaeichhorn]

Originally Posted by lupis

also judgement i not like because for me it is wrong if you can buy good results.

but i know alud must win and it is planed. not first time you know.

I don´t know who you are and I surely very often don´t agree with judgements on international shows but here again you give statements that include very heavy accusations without any proof.
It is one thing to not agree with some judgements but a totally other to say the judge has been paid. Stefan Stefik is the head of the Slovakian kennel club, I know him personally from several shows, he is very engaged for our breed though as a non specialised judge not always perfect, but he is a judge I am more than sure of that he wasn´t paid and that he tried his very best.
You asked a lot of questions here that show that you don´t know very much of the breed or of breeding rules in itself I don´t think you are the right person to judge any results in this rude way.

Ina

[lupis]

Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn

I It is one thing to not agree with some judgements but a totally other to say the judge has been paid. Stefan Stefik is the head of the Slovakian kennel club

i not say you pay stefik of judge. but everybody in italy know if you want to win famous dog show (also in slovak) you need this guy



no problem if your dog is not best one or have no hair or is shy you will win for sure. you not believe me look on handler and winner http://www.wolfdog.org/drupal/it/gallery/subcat/2/2262/
http://www.wolfdog.org/drupal/it/gallery/subcat/2/2261/
http://www.wolfdog.org/drupal/it/gallery/subcat/2/2149/
http://www.wolfdog.org/drupal/it/gallery/subcat/2/2835/ and you can see more shows with same scheme: same professional handler, different dogs but always winner. also if dog is not so good looking or not good quality. if you go with you dog to famous dog show and see this guy in ring with dog from italia i can vote you loose and he will be winner. so dog show work. here everybody knows it.
same was in budapest - alud was worse looking. much more better were female nr. 2 and nr. 3 in champion class. better look and much better character but she loose. same later. Breezewolf and morgana were 1000% better as alud but alud win. you know why. if you not believe me ask people with dogs in budapest. it is why i hate shows and will never show my future wolfdog.