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Old 17-07-2008, 11:10   #1
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Normally the first result isn't the official yet, it's only for know if is all right with the dog or not, if is all right so people do the official one at right age, that's why is more common find good results than bad.
You write breeder make official and not official result and write only good? But I see you removed all bad result Crying wolf dogs and only good are here. You mean breeder send you only official result of good hips and not send bad results and you removed them?
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Old 17-07-2008, 19:35   #2
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You write breeder make official and not official result and write only good? But I see you removed all bad result Crying wolf dogs and only good are here. You mean breeder send you only official result of good hips and not send bad results and you removed them?
No, you don't understand me.
normally everyone makes 2 exams of his dog, one so called pre-exam and the official one, these 2 are made in different ages.
Where I live the pre-examination is made with 18 months, the official result is made with 24 months.
So, the breeder/owner make the pre-exam at 18 months, if the dog is displasic he can castrate the dog and start the treatment or wait for make the official one when the dog have 24 months.
Normally, if the dog is already high displasic at the pre-exam with 18 months, the owner/breeder not do the official one, because have no need.
So, at the database only official results are showed, that's why have more good results than bads, normally people when receive a bad result at the pre-examination don't do the official.
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Old 18-07-2008, 09:49   #3
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Hi everybody!

It is great to see people interested in this subject. I certainly love my dog and would not change her for any other. And because I love her so much, it makes my heart brake when I see her falling down when she runs or tries to turn. And this is why I am so mad on these irresponsible breeders. They have all the information they need, there is no excuse. Is there nothing we can do to stop these bad crossings??

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Old 18-07-2008, 11:35   #4
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Hi everybody!

It is great to see people interested in this subject. I certainly love my dog and would not change her for any other. And because I love her so much, it makes my heart brake when I see her falling down when she runs or tries to turn. And this is why I am so mad on these irresponsible breeders. They have all the information they need, there is no excuse. Is there nothing we can do to stop these bad crossings??

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Hello Ioana,
what you write makes MY heart brake.
The dog you are speaking about is ULKA?
Do you know if Chester and Xenia have HD results?
Unfortunately NOBODY can oblige breeders to breed responsibly.... OWNERS can FORCE them to make quality, to work in the best direction.
If the parents have no HD results, then I would NOT buy a dog from a Breeder knowing that this dog could have some problems.
I'm not blaming you of course, but only by sharing information like this, on this forum, it is possible to reduce risk.
I could make many examples and unfortunately I could hurt many friends.
I can tell you what I did!
I made HD results for my dog, she was dysplasic and I made the results OFFICIAL, so everybody can see.
So, people, if they look for information, they will see that the parents of my dog have made dysplasic dogs...it's not something mathematical unfortunately (dysplasy is not perfectly genetical) but it could help.
Only OWNERS can oblige BREEDERS to work better by NOT BUYING dogs from them.
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Old 18-07-2008, 15:26   #5
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I made HD results for my dog, she was dysplasic and I made the results OFFICIAL, so everybody can see.
So, people, if they look for information, they will see that the parents of my dog have made dysplasic dogs...it's not something mathematical unfortunately (dysplasy is not perfectly genetical) but it could help.

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Chapeuax bas, Massimo, chapeuax bas Mirka, Margo, Przemek, and all, who care to share information concerning their own dogs' health with other breeders and potential owners of CSVs!!!
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