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Old 13-07-2008, 23:25   #1
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1) You must choose a date that is good for everybody, judges too.

2) We' ve got about 20-25 italian memeber of KCSV, so if there are enough member of Czech (or slovakian) club in a country, the czech club could (and should) organize a bonitace in that country with his judges.

3) of course you should pay travel & lodging for judges

4) again : I'm nothing against mr. Jedlicka, I think he was a very good judge too, but some of his friends aren't good people at all.

5) As you can see italian bonitace made by this judge (and other judges) in the "italian way" are not visible anymore on this website, simply because they are'nt "bonitace", but are somthing different (but with the same codes).
You must be sure he will apply the latest rules for bonitace.

6) Anyway, goodluck
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Old 14-07-2008, 09:54   #2
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5) As you can see italian bonitace made by this judge (and other judges) in the "italian way" are not visible anymore on this website, simply because they are'nt "bonitace", but are somthing different (but with the same codes).
This is different situation. Italian club didn't want the bonitation to be as it is in Czech or in Slovak. They specifically didn't want the character test. And because they ddn't do the character test in our way, we cannont accept their codes as valid ones.
On the other hand, Belgian club specifically wishes to make a bonitation the same way as in countries of origin. If their test is the same as in Slovakia or Czech rep., with an international judge that is experienced with wolfdogs, their results will be valid, thats all.
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Old 14-07-2008, 09:59   #3
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Navarre, while I appreciate your advice, I must also react.

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1) You must choose a date that is good for everybody, judges too.
Well, we knew that. But we can´t change the fact, that the judges simply are not available or not willing to come.

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2) We' ve got about 20-25 italian memeber of KCSV, so if there are enough member of Czech (or slovakian) club in a country, the czech club could (and should) organize a bonitace in that country with his judges.
I don´t really understand this. In all cases, and it is last time I say this, because I don´t want to repeat myself all the time, the Czech club was asked for help, and they did not respond, neither cared.

The only club who offered help was the Slovak club, however, in the end there was no Slovak judge available to come.

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3) of course you should pay travel & lodging for judges
That goes without saying. It is our second bonitation, we know this.

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4) again : I'm nothing against mr. Jedlicka, I think he was a very good judge too, but some of his friends aren't good people at all.
Friends of Mr.Jedlicka have nothing to do with our bonitation. What matters to us is that he is good judge. We are not forcing anyone to come to the bonitation, if they disagree with the judge chosen.

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5) As you can see italian bonitace made by this judge (and other judges) in the "italian way" are not visible anymore on this website, simply because they are'nt "bonitace", but are somthing different (but with the same codes).
What is published or not on this site, has no official value. Let´s remember this is a private website of Pavel, Przemek and Margo, and if they decide to post results of green snowmen with bonitation code, it will be perfectly within their rights.
What matters to us are official organisations, official judges and FCI rules.

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You must be sure he will apply the latest rules for bonitace.
That´s the point. And who says he would not, or could not?

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6) Anyway, goodluck
Thank you. We will need it.
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