Judges for CSV & SWH

[Wolfsirius]

Hello, everybody!

I need info about judges with right for judging Ceskoslovensky Vlcak and Saarloos Wolfhond.
Also info about breeders of both breed, with judging rights for both.

Thank you; Suski, Finland

[Huan]

In many countries the judge can make an exam which allows him to judge the whole I FCI group including Saarlos and Czechoslovakian wolfdog but not always they are experts in this breeds (rather very rarely). As for wolfdog breeders who judges both breeds: the only one I know is Corrie Keizer. Judges who are CzW breeders and who have permission for CzW are much more...

[Huan]

As for Ceskoslovensky vlcaks:


Judges of I FCI Group that often judge CzWs in CZ and SK (no idea about they skills by Saarloses):

Czech Republic:
L. Jancik
P. Rehanek
M. Vaclavik
L. Ubrova

Slovakia:
T. Havelka
J. Matyas
G. Ridarcikova
S. Stefik


CzW club judges (without permission for Saarloses as far as I know):

Czech Republic:
K. Hartl
J. Jedlicka
A. Simackova
M. Soukupova


Slovakia:
O. Dora
F. Rosik
S. Bognarova

[Wolfsirius]

Thank you Przemek, what i'm looking for just, is special judges, not "allrounders" Judges you just mentioned, which one of them have Ceskoslovensky at home? (Some of Clubjudges i know already personally) but the other ones? I would also like to know something about Stefan Stefik and Peter Rehanek. How often they judged these breeds, and had they seen lot of dogs during their lives?

-Suski

[Huan]

Originally Posted by Wolfsirius

Thank you Przemek, what i'm looking for just, is special judges, not "allrounders" Judges you just mentioned, which one of them have Ceskoslovensky at home? (Some of Clubjudges i know already personally) but the other ones? I would also like to know something about Stefan Stefik and Peter Rehanek. How often they judged these breeds, and had they seen lot of dogs during their lives?

All of the club judges were or are CzW breeders and most them were also in board of the club. If you need more information about specific one just let me know. As for allrounders I mentioned: the people I mentioned are the ones who regulary judges CzWs in the origin countries and are recognized by the club - so they know the breed but of course all of them differs a little.

Stefan Stefik is the president of Slovakian Cynologique Union and for me is one of the best judges for CzWs. His strong side is the fact that he doesn't own a CzW and is completely objective while judging - something that is sometimes missing by club judges who usually know the second end of the leash. Stefan Stefik judged already the CzW club show in Germany and this year in November he will judge the European CzW show in Nitra where you see usually 30-40 CzWs.

[Wolfsirius]

Thank you very much again.

About bonitation, clubjudges have rights for that, or?

-Suski

[Huan]

According to bonitation rules: the bonitation comittee should include at least three people: breeding supervisor, the judge and event manager. Theoreticaly it can be any judge who have rights to judge CzWs but in the fact it's always club judge who is at the same breeding supervisor.

[Koos]

Hello Suski,

As far as I know is Sona Bognarova also a FCI judge, because she is a judge for another race (Black Russian Owzarca?????) and also she has judged several times at the show in Bratislava unter FCI. You only can do that when you are a FCI judge. If Corrie Keizer is a judge for Saarloos AND Czech I don't know. For Czech , she is. She did her exams in France so it is possible she did both.
I think, there is no judge in Czech REpublique and Slowakia, who is a judge for both races, because a Saarloos is hardly unknown there.
In Holland there are several judges allowed to judge both races but they are also allrounders and judging more races.
Greetings,

Letty

[Dym]

Do your hear something about judge Lef Vilberg from Norway?

[Wolfsirius]

What kind of judge is Horst Kliebenstein (D) ?

(about shyness, even in this case with saarloos) but i want to ask if anybody had been judged by him with shy dog???

-Suski

[Koos]

Hi Suski,

Yes, we were judged by Horst Kliebenstein. He is an Allrounder and in Germany it is at this moment so, that when a CW takes a step backwards then you have a Very Good. They looking extreemly for a stabil character and shyness.

Letty

[Wolfsirius]

Oh. I wanted to go to him with saarloos....
...but... ? As you know saarloos are more shy, so should i waite disc. or only good???

[Koos]

Hello Suski,

If you want to show the Saarloos, I think, it is not a problem, because from a Saarloos they know that they are shy but from a CW they don't except it.

Greetings

Letty

[z Peronówki]

in Germany it is at this moment so, that when a CW takes a step backwards then you have a Very Good. They looking extreemly for a stabil character and shyness.

It is one of the main things which I like by German judges. They pay really a lot attention to the right character of CzWs. It is really much better that shows where you can see in the main ring the BOB-dog with the tail under the belly....