CsW's in Greece?

wolfin · 04-02-2008, 23:00

If You will breed mas have reproductors sertificat. Greece IS FCI members and all reguls is whe have others countrys.
but if Ypu will make Yours dogs from boys -to man, this is stupid ideas-You latter have BIGEST problems with hes temperament and living, not have yet.

yes, stupid ideas

GalomyOak · 05-02-2008, 02:24

I am curious how you can be so concerned with how Tristan "feels" because of his urges, but how you can have no concern for the health and wellbeing of his potential progeny should you breed him only to alleviate his sexual urges. Without hip dysplasia results, how could you ensure the puppies would have the best possible chance of not suffering from painful joint problems? Results are no guarantee, but it is obviously cruel, and a bad decision to breed with a dog that has bad results. And what about temperment issues? If you yourself are having behavioral problems with your own puppy that you are unable to 100% manage, how could you be helpful to the people that you "give" the puppies to if they have the same problems? What would happen to the puppies if the new owners decided that they were too much to handle - shelters, or worse, euthanasia? As you know for sure by now, CsVs have very unique needs and traits than other breeds- our dog's breeder has been wonderful in answering our questions, and helping us to help our puppy adjust to her new family. Could you sleep comfortably at night knowing a portion of the CsVs in your country lived lives in pain or in animal shelters because of your desire to give your dog a sex life? I hope not...

Rona · 05-02-2008, 09:42

Let's for a while leave the moral issues... I see from the above conversation it's like trying to explain to a two-year- old that he mustn’t play with a knife... (Sorry Nicolas, but that's how it appears to me

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But try to be more far-sighted: CSV females are on heat just roughly once a year and the dog is interested in them for a few days only. So how frequently do you want to satisfy your dog's needs? Just once a year? Wouldn't this be too seldom?

I don't suppose you're the sort of person who would keep travelling all round Europe to make your dog happy or that many CSV females owners would like to play your game. What then? Buy CSV females from puppy-mills to start a harem for Tristan? This wouldn't help either because very soon the females would either be on heat at the same time of the year, or only one of them would be on heat like it happens in a pack of wolves.

I remember how much everybody here tried to help you when Tristan was little and you were having problems with him. I suppose you should trust people who wish you well, offered you their time and care and know a lot both about the breed and problems connected with it. If they say you might have serious behavioural problems with Tristan after the mating (especially when he's too young) they know what they’re writing about. Why not listen to their advice? Why not learn first and act later?

Besides, remember that physiology of a dog is not the same as the physiology of a man. Don't humanize Tristan, however much you love him.

04-02-2008, 23:00	#1
wolfin Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Where the wolf lives Posts: 6,095	If You will breed mas have reproductors sertificat. Greece IS FCI members and all reguls is whe have others countrys. but if Ypu will make Yours dogs from boys -to man, this is stupid ideas-You latter have BIGEST problems with hes temperament and living, not have yet. yes, stupid ideas __________________

05-02-2008, 09:42	#3
Rona Distinguished Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Kraków Posts: 3,509	Let's for a while leave the moral issues... I see from the above conversation it's like trying to explain to a two-year- old that he mustn’t play with a knife... (Sorry Nicolas, but that's how it appears to me) But try to be more far-sighted: CSV females are on heat just roughly once a year and the dog is interested in them for a few days only. So how frequently do you want to satisfy your dog's needs? Just once a year? Wouldn't this be too seldom? I don't suppose you're the sort of person who would keep travelling all round Europe to make your dog happy or that many CSV females owners would like to play your game. What then? Buy CSV females from puppy-mills to start a harem for Tristan? This wouldn't help either because very soon the females would either be on heat at the same time of the year, or only one of them would be on heat like it happens in a pack of wolves. I remember how much everybody here tried to help you when Tristan was little and you were having problems with him. I suppose you should trust people who wish you well, offered you their time and care and know a lot both about the breed and problems connected with it. If they say you might have serious behavioural problems with Tristan after the mating (especially when he's too young) they know what they’re writing about. Why not listen to their advice? Why not learn first and act later? Besides, remember that physiology of a dog is not the same as the physiology of a man. Don't humanize Tristan, however much you love him.

05-02-2008, 02:24	#2
GalomyOak Howling Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 436	I am curious how you can be so concerned with how Tristan "feels" because of his urges, but how you can have no concern for the health and wellbeing of his potential progeny should you breed him only to alleviate his sexual urges. Without hip dysplasia results, how could you ensure the puppies would have the best possible chance of not suffering from painful joint problems? Results are no guarantee, but it is obviously cruel, and a bad decision to breed with a dog that has bad results. And what about temperment issues? If you yourself are having behavioral problems with your own puppy that you are unable to 100% manage, how could you be helpful to the people that you "give" the puppies to if they have the same problems? What would happen to the puppies if the new owners decided that they were too much to handle - shelters, or worse, euthanasia? As you know for sure by now, CsVs have very unique needs and traits than other breeds- our dog's breeder has been wonderful in answering our questions, and helping us to help our puppy adjust to her new family. Could you sleep comfortably at night knowing a portion of the CsVs in your country lived lives in pain or in animal shelters because of your desire to give your dog a sex life? I hope not...