Ways of evolving of CzW...

[Pavel]

Originally Posted by Kerstin

Which kind do you like?

Doesnt matter, what I like. Standard speaks clear. Simply say - the target is a dog with wolfish exterior, wolfish endurance and character of GSD (means the working line).

Originally Posted by Kerstin

What is wrong with the fact they look like a GSD?

According standard are practically all typically signs of GSD by CsW a faults.

Originally Posted by Kerstin

And I am as lazy as my dog For a good companion living around with people an Oi or Oh dog is perfect. For me as a future breeder I would like to breed Of dogs of course but can you guarantee on genetics?

Again - doesnt matter, what you like. Standard says :
" Lively, active, tough, obedient with quick reactions, fearless and courageous. Shows tremendous loyalty towards his master. Resistant to weather conditions. Versatile in his uses.".
Oi or Oh are not good character according standard. If you need some companion dog, quite, slow - then you must choice other breed. CsW was not breding to be a companion dog only.

Originally Posted by Kerstin

You know that we have the same discussion in Germany. You know that I like working with my dogs- but what examen proofs for sure that you are having a good future working dog? Is it BH? IPO? Obedience? Tracking? Trailing? Agility?

All working exams.

Originally Posted by Kerstin

Why these or other- why not endurance? Endurance tests had their reason as well

Yes, reason yes, but not testing the working gens of dog. Working exams means exam, where dog must know something and shows, that can learn and can working. To endurance exams can go shy dogs, same like dogs, which are absolutely uncontrolable.

[saschia]

Originally Posted by Pavel

Yes, reason yes, but not testing the working gens of dog. Working exams means exam, where dog must know something and shows, that can learn and can working. To endurance exams can go shy dogs, same like dogs, which are absolutely uncontrolable.

Pavel, have you seen any really shy or uncontrollable dog perform endurance test exam in prescribed time? Because just running the 40 km without having the paws injured is not enough to perform the exam. It has to be done in limited time. Of course, if you had ideal conditions (no dogs or people around), you could theoreticaly make it. But with dogs and people around, you loose precious time fighting your dog to run along your bike.

I agree that there are much better working exams (by the way, is Agility working exam in your opinion?).

But I don't think this is the topic of this forum (as well as my reply to Mirka, I confess).