SIBO & Inflamatory bowel disease

[nicholas]

I understand, but isn't it difficult to get rid of Giardia if he keeps on eating his feces? How is he supposed to get over it if he keeps putting it in his system?

Ina do you have any idea how i can make him stop this?

With regards to the treatment, the vet suggested that we take again sample from his feces on Wednesday and SUnday. Should his feces start to become harder and we will continue with valbazen. If he shows no porgress he suggested to use fysiogen (tinadozole) which is a drug used in humans for giardia and not penocur. What do you think?

Is he going to be alright in the end after all this? What if he has been having it for more than 2 motnhs? What kind of damage his intestines might have suffered? Do you have any product to propose for probiotics and to restore the flora in his intestine?

[michaelundinaeichhorn]

Originally Posted by nicholas

I understand, but isn't it difficult to get rid of Giardia if he keeps on eating his feces? How is he supposed to get over it if he keeps putting it in his system?

He will put them into his system his whole life long, he is not the only dog with Giardia and Giardia stay in the ground quite a time. The dogs get immune against them and don´t get ill any longer.

Originally Posted by nicholas

Ina do you have any idea how i can make him stop this?

He will stop by his own and you can teach him at least not to do so when you are near but this will take some time.

Originally Posted by nicholas

With regards to the treatment, the vet suggested that we take again sample from his feces on Wednesday and SUnday. Should his feces start to become harder and we will continue with valbazen. If he shows no porgress he suggested to use fysiogen (tinadozole) which is a drug used in humans for giardia and not penocur. What do you think?

We normally don´t use those drugs in Germany for dogs with Giardia. I work as a vet for an animal shelter with around 140 dogs and the same amount of cats. We have a big Giardia problem and every new dog starts with this diarrhia sooner or later. We use Fenbendazol (Panacur) for 5 days with 14 days break and repeat the treatment. For older dogs or dogs that still tend to have problems we use Metronidazol the second time or in the thame sheme like Panacur. You even can combine these drugs for severe cases.
Till now every dog including the very young and small ones in very bad conditions got over it quite soon.
For a dog with a history like yours I would spare the second test and just do a second treatment, if he gets problems again I would do another test, it doesn´t have to be Giardia.

Originally Posted by nicholas

Is he going to be alright in the end after all this? What if he has been having it for more than 2 motnhs? What kind of damage his intestines might have suffered? Do you have any product to propose for probiotics and to restore the flora in his intestine?

If Giardia is his only problem he will just have a period of soft faeces becaus the bactirias in his intestines have to restore. A diet and Joghurt as recommended will do. Don´t panic he will get over it.

Ina

[nicholas]

Thyank you very much for your help. I appreciate it.

Best,
Nicholas

[nicholas]

Hi all,

Just wanted to let you know that Tristna is ....a new dog! His diarrhoea has stoped, his stooll are gettign firmer by the day. He is alive an energetic as he should have been! I am realy happy for him. We are waiting the results from the second test and on Tuesday he will start the second cycle with valbazen. Other than that he is having feces once and sometimes twice a day (probably because of his diet with chicken and rice).

Thank you all for your kind words and support.

Best,
Nicholas

[Angelika]

good news

regards
Angelika

[nicholas]

Is it normal for the dog to start again haing diarhoea? SInce the day before yesterday he has been having diarhoea again. Tomorrow he is supposed to start the second phase wiht valbazen.

Thanks again

[michaelundinaeichhorn]

Originally Posted by nicholas

Is it normal for the dog to start again haing diarhoea? SInce the day before yesterday he has been having diarhoea again. Tomorrow he is supposed to start the second phase wiht valbazen.

Thanks again

Giardia very often start a second time, that´s the reason for the second treatment.