DM Testresults

mijke · 21-04-2010, 22:07

Last week I did receive the DM test results of Paco and Atlasz and both owners did give permission to publish the results.
Also these 2 males are Carriers.

So on this moment these official DM test results are known:

Justine Stella Atoi de Louba Tar - Affected
Male X - Affected (the owner does not want to publish the name of the dog yet)
Male X - Carrier (the owner does not want to publish the name of the dog yet)
Hogan Sky van Hagia Sophia - Carrier
Chunami from Bandit's World - Carrier
Phylax Paco van de Ursidae-Stee - Carrier
Atlasz Cannus Lupus - Carrier

Also several other CsW's were tested, and the owners wait for the results.

This list with test results is not any reason for "panic"!
But it is clear that DM exists in CsW breed in several lines and countries.

That is why it is useful to test more CsW's for DM!
And again: not any dog needs to be excluded for breeding!

On lecture last weekend about DM of Dr. Paul Mandigers (neurologic specialist) was also mentioned that it would be a disaster for a breed when DM carriers would be excluded for breeding.

Mikael · 21-04-2010, 22:35

Thanks again for all you hard work Mijke

Thanks to you many dogs will not have to suffer !

Best regards / Mikael

yukidomari · 22-04-2010, 16:39

Good post. Thanks for sharing - it's good to know that there are breeders who care about testing for and limiting DM in CSVs.. as the breed is still in its early years, I do believe good control can provide a healthier future before DM becomes too wide spread or causes more dogs to suffer.

draggar · 22-04-2010, 18:26

Yep. I hope the two active dogs are not used in breeding unless they are phenominal in every other aspect - and then only breed to a truly normal / normal dog.

Carriers can be bred - just breed them to N/N dogs and the puppies will, at worst, be carriers. The breed is small enough that with some monitoring of this we might be able to eliminate DM from the breed (yes, it will take a while).

Akela · 22-04-2010, 19:01

Hello,
can someone explain me what clearly is DM?
It is a short "word" for what genetic disease exactly?
Thank you very much.

draggar · 22-04-2010, 19:04

A few links on it:

http://www.fredlanting.org/2010/02/t...athy%e2%80%9d/

http://neuro.vetmed.ufl.edu/neuro/DM_Web/DMofGS.htm

OFA test:
https://secure.offa.org/cart.html

yukidomari · 22-04-2010, 19:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akela

Hello,
can someone explain me what clearly is DM?
It is a short "word" for what genetic disease exactly?
Thank you very much.

It's short for Degenerative Myelopathy.

SARKA · 14-08-2010, 11:58

Test results DM from Italy
Arimminum Andromeda N/N FREE
Arimminum Storm N/N FREE
Arimminum Naboo N/N FREE
Layla Zlata Palz N/N FREE
Anish Pura Gioia N/N FREE

draggar · 14-08-2010, 17:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by SARKA

Test results DM from Italy
Arimminum Andromeda N/N FREE
Arimminum Storm N/N FREE
Arimminum Naboo N/N FREE
Layla Zlata Palz N/N FREE
Anish Pura Gioia N/N FREE

That's awesome!

Mikael · 14-08-2010, 19:15

For testing all your dogs !!! And congratulations one the results !!!

Best regards / Mikael

GalomyOak · 14-08-2010, 22:21

I have ordered my DM tests from www.offa.org - USD$65 - soon I will have results for Anthea and Wasabogoa, and after for Hronec and Jovice - I have my fingers crossed! Really glad to see people are testing! It's really nice to see people from Europe are also using this organization - normal results are automatically posted, and owners have the choice of submitting abnormal results (it's not required).

Congratulations Sarka! And thank you!

Marcy

Nebulosa · 14-08-2010, 23:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by GalomyOak

I have ordered my DM tests from www.offa.org - USD$65 - soon I will have results for Anthea and Wasabogoa, and after for Hronec and Jovice - I have my fingers crossed! Really glad to see people are testing! It's really nice to see people from Europe are also using this organization - normal results are automatically posted, and owners have the choice of submitting abnormal results (it's not required).

Congratulations Sarka! And thank you!

Marcy

Did you used a FTA card or you sent a blood sample?
This price is much more acessible for me, and with the FTA card everything gets more easy for long trips.

GalomyOak · 16-08-2010, 03:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nebulosa

Did you used a FTA card or you sent a blood sample?
This price is much more acessible for me, and with the FTA card everything gets more easy for long trips.

Hey Paula!

I have only just ordered the tests (they will come by mail). They are FTA - using the saliva/cheek cells. Shipping was included with my order - but maybe it is different to a different country. There is one owner from Germany who has used this test, and is listed in the database - clear results.

Maybe they have more details on ordering internationally. I ordered the test from this link:
https://secure.offa.org/cart.html

I wish the same kind of test was available for dwarfism...that's a very expensive test for me, I think, to send blood to Europe.

Let me know if I can help you!

Marcy

draggar · 16-08-2010, 13:29

Marcy - please let us know when you get the results so we know if we need to test Luna or not. If I remember correctly it didn't take long from ordering the test to getting the results.

GalomyOak · 16-08-2010, 16:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by draggar

Marcy - please let us know when you get the results so we know if we need to test Luna or not. If I remember correctly it didn't take long from ordering the test to getting the results.

Will do!

SARKA · 12-10-2010, 16:54

Arimminum Wakan N/N free
Arimminum Odette N/N free

André · 13-10-2010, 22:15

How the test can be made? Alternatives...

GalomyOak · 13-10-2010, 22:34

Also

Arimminum Wasabogoa = Free
Anthea od Vlci Skaly = Free
A Galomy Oak = Carrier
Taabernakkelin Hronsek = Carrier or affected (not official, but produced at least 1 carrier in my A litter with Anthea od Vlci Skaly)

GalomyOak · 13-10-2010, 22:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by André

How the test can be made? Alternatives...

It's a blood or saliva (FTA card) genetic test - there are no alternatives. One option is to order the test from this website:
https://secure.offa.org/cart.html

The cost is US$65 + small cost to ship the test card overseas and back - the same weight and size as a standard letter. This test uses saliva, not blood, so it doesn't need the same amount of careful preservation of blood. If the results are normal, they are posted publicly in the offa.org database. If the dog is carrier or at risk/affected, it is the owner's decision to post the results.

André · 14-10-2010, 00:04

Are there other companies that do the test? In Europe?

21-04-2010, 22:07	#1
mijke Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Warnsveld Posts: 2,033	DM Testresults Last week I did receive the DM test results of Paco and Atlasz and both owners did give permission to publish the results. Also these 2 males are Carriers. So on this moment these official DM test results are known: Justine Stella Atoi de Louba Tar - Affected Male X - Affected (the owner does not want to publish the name of the dog yet) Male X - Carrier (the owner does not want to publish the name of the dog yet) Hogan Sky van Hagia Sophia - Carrier Chunami from Bandit's World - Carrier Phylax Paco van de Ursidae-Stee - Carrier Atlasz Cannus Lupus - Carrier Also several other CsW's were tested, and the owners wait for the results. This list with test results is not any reason for "panic"! But it is clear that DM exists in CsW breed in several lines and countries. That is why it is useful to test more CsW's for DM! And again: not any dog needs to be excluded for breeding! On lecture last weekend about DM of Dr. Paul Mandigers (neurologic specialist) was also mentioned that it would be a disaster for a breed when DM carriers would be excluded for breeding. __________________ Vriendelijke groeten, Mijke PS: I am not a moderator anymore!!

21-04-2010, 22:35	#2
Mikael Scandinavian Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Stockholm Posts: 1,089	Thanks again for all you hard work Mijke Thanks to you many dogs will not have to suffer ! Best regards / Mikael __________________ _________________________________________________ Hronec, Rasty, Zilja Kennel, Wolfdog of Sweden* http://kennelwolfdogofsweden.vpsite.se/Home.html http://www.facebook.com/pages/Wolfdo...53067971392916

22-04-2010, 18:26	#4
draggar Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 370	Yep. I hope the two active dogs are not used in breeding unless they are phenominal in every other aspect - and then only breed to a truly normal / normal dog. Carriers can be bred - just breed them to N/N dogs and the puppies will, at worst, be carriers. The breed is small enough that with some monitoring of this we might be able to eliminate DM from the breed (yes, it will take a while). __________________ Fred Lanting's Official Site Dog Actors

22-04-2010, 19:01	#5
Akela Junior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Québec Posts: 5	DM Hello, can someone explain me what clearly is DM? It is a short "word" for what genetic disease exactly? Thank you very much.

22-04-2010, 19:04	#6
draggar Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 370	A few links on it: http://www.fredlanting.org/2010/02/t...athy%e2%80%9d/ http://neuro.vetmed.ufl.edu/neuro/DM_Web/DMofGS.htm OFA test: https://secure.offa.org/cart.html __________________ Fred Lanting's Official Site Dog Actors

22-04-2010, 16:39	#3
yukidomari Moderator Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Los Angeles CA Posts: 847	Good post. Thanks for sharing - it's good to know that there are breeders who care about testing for and limiting DM in CSVs.. as the breed is still in its early years, I do believe good control can provide a healthier future before DM becomes too wide spread or causes more dogs to suffer.

14-08-2010, 11:58	#8
SARKA Arimminum Kennel Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Rimini Posts: 1,230	Test results DM from Italy Arimminum Andromeda N/N FREE Arimminum Storm N/N FREE Arimminum Naboo N/N FREE Layla Zlata Palz N/N FREE Anish Pura Gioia N/N FREE __________________ Sarka Matrasova www.lupocecoslovacco.it

14-08-2010, 19:15	#10
Mikael Scandinavian Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Stockholm Posts: 1,089	For testing all your dogs !!! And congratulations one the results !!! Best regards / Mikael __________________ _________________________________________________ Hronec, Rasty, Zilja Kennel, Wolfdog of Sweden* http://kennelwolfdogofsweden.vpsite.se/Home.html http://www.facebook.com/pages/Wolfdo...53067971392916

14-08-2010, 22:21	#11
GalomyOak Howling Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 436	I have ordered my DM tests from www.offa.org - USD$65 - soon I will have results for Anthea and Wasabogoa, and after for Hronec and Jovice - I have my fingers crossed! Really glad to see people are testing! It's really nice to see people from Europe are also using this organization - normal results are automatically posted, and owners have the choice of submitting abnormal results (it's not required). Congratulations Sarka! And thank you! Marcy __________________ "What lies behind us and what lies ahead of us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us."~Henry David Thoreau http://www.galomyoak.com

16-08-2010, 13:29	#14
draggar Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 370	Marcy - please let us know when you get the results so we know if we need to test Luna or not. If I remember correctly it didn't take long from ordering the test to getting the results. __________________ Fred Lanting's Official Site Dog Actors

12-10-2010, 16:54	#16
SARKA Arimminum Kennel Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Rimini Posts: 1,230	Arimminum Wakan N/N free Arimminum Odette N/N free __________________ Sarka Matrasova www.lupocecoslovacco.it

13-10-2010, 22:15	#17
André Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 76	How the test can be made? Alternatives...

13-10-2010, 22:34	#18
GalomyOak Howling Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 436	Also Arimminum Wasabogoa = Free Anthea od Vlci Skaly = Free A Galomy Oak = Carrier Taabernakkelin Hronsek = Carrier or affected (not official, but produced at least 1 carrier in my A litter with Anthea od Vlci Skaly) __________________ "What lies behind us and what lies ahead of us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us."~Henry David Thoreau http://www.galomyoak.com

14-10-2010, 00:04	#20
André Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 76	Are there other companies that do the test? In Europe?