DM Testresults - Page 3

yukidomari · 09-12-2010, 23:26

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Originally Posted by Morian

this is a good idea for breeders which sell their pups for 1000 eur and more

but it's sad we can't be so sure about future hd result

but speaking seriously, i would pay +66 eur (or how much does the test cost) just to be sure that my pup will be healthy.

Me too.. I think that's a good idea and would like to ask our breeder.. Does anyone know how long the results take to return?

michaelundinaeichhorn · 09-12-2010, 23:36

within Germany one to two weeks.

Ina

yukidomari · 09-12-2010, 23:43

Thank you!

wilczakrew · 10-12-2010, 01:50

massimo · 22-12-2010, 19:23

Hi
congratulations for yor litter.
Could I kindly ask you if you have done the DMA tests on your dogs before mating them?

Thank you for your reply!
massimo

wolfin · 22-12-2010, 19:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by massimo

Hi
congratulations for yor litter.
Could I kindly ask you if you have done the DMA tests on your dogs before mating them?

Thank you for your reply!
massimo

Your dogs too not see in DM testing list

massimo · 22-12-2010, 20:00

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Originally Posted by wolfin

Your dogs too not see in DM testing list

Since when this is a reply?
Jasna has done test and is waiting for reply.
Oliver is 8 years old and will not reproduce anymore.
Echo is tested and is N/N, so any female he covers will give HEALTHY
puppies and MAXIMUM carriers (depending on mother)
Lunatica is castrated since 1 years old because she is HD/D.
As you can see, my ONLY dog who is reproducing at the moment is tsted and N/N negative.

Mine is a simple question, and knowing Kay's sister (K-lee, who has made puppies with Echo) is a carrier, I am making a very straightforward question.
I have a friend interested in this litter and maybe others too may be interested in this simple question.
Is that wrong?

Now, considering my reply to you was full and complete, in the joyful xmas spirit should I also ask if Jolly or Iran or Harmonia have been tested?

wolfin · 22-12-2010, 20:07

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Originally Posted by massimo

Oliver is 8 years old and will not reproduce anymore.

but this female Joly and Harmonia TOO NOT go TO Production like you Oliver

Quote:

I have a friend interested in this litter and maybe others too may be interested in this simple question.
Is that wrong?

I think she have good owner in spain and not mas have owner in others country. And all time can about all who interesing You quest in email way. Or not.

massimo · 22-12-2010, 20:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfin

but this female Joly and Harmonia TOO NOT go TO Production like you Oliver

..

Exactly, that is why I said "should I ask it too?" considering you asked about my dogs. However the heritage of these dogs is much much wider than that of oliver...

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfin

I think she have good owner in spain and not mas have owner in others country. And all time can about all who interesing You quest in email way. Or not.

I think we are all nice to say congratulations to the best litter in spain but maybe they should have a bit more information about health issues too.
or is this not good when we speak about certain dogs or lines and good only when we speak about others?
what is there to be afraid of? nothing I guess!
nothing to hide if we speak about the best litter in spain!

Klee is carrier, so, there are chances that Kay could be too, and I am curious to know about Enor.
All is important, bloodline, Hd, Good blood, bonitation, Elbows and now we know also DMA is important.

I think it is time to be more objective when speaking about litters and not always attacking the usual breeders becuase we don't like them.

New owners should be aware of what they are paying for.
This applies to others and also to myself, if a breeder is honest, and I am sure Tuky is a very very honest person and has been informed by his breeders about these problems and will do the same.

wolfin · 22-12-2010, 20:21

they can be who be but this are THE best litter in Spain

p.s. do You have permission from K-lee owner to publishe this results in all forums posts?
Sarka one time publishe italian dogs results and have later problems with this, for this I think better when make this owner but not friend from away

Rona · 22-12-2010, 20:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by massimo

Klee is carrier, so, there are chances that Kay could be too, and I am curious to know about Enor.

Are you sure about this info?

I was talking with Gia, K-lee owner, a couple of weeks ago and she told me she was planning to do the DM test in 2011. I think she even wrote this on the Polish forum the other day.

Not knowing if K-lee is a carrier or not, her owners who are very responsible people decided to select a DM n/n rep, just to been the safe side

massimo · 22-12-2010, 20:50

I am owner of Male who mated K-lee.
I am planning to take one puppy as studfee, so I have been informed by EWA and have been authorised to speak about it becuase, responsibly, she knew before mating that Echo is N/N.

Now that all these informations have been given to you...can I FINALLY get some relpies???
Gosh..objectivity is down the drain these days!!

Why is everybody so scared to speak up??
It seems that I make one question, I receive many other questions, I reply but I dont get any reply.

Ewa is a responsible person and did things responsibly...but I am not asking about Ewa.

massimo · 22-12-2010, 20:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfin

they can be who be but this are THE best litter in Spain

Said by the greatest expert of CLC around I guess...

wolfin · 22-12-2010, 21:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by massimo

Said by the greatest expert of CLC around I guess...

thanks for nice worts for me is VERY important nice opinion from this type like You people

massimo · 22-12-2010, 21:10

Look. It is not my intention to spoil this beautiful thread about tuky's litter.
I believe the last comments have no reason to be in the thread.
If mod wants, they can be taken off.
However i believe that my question about health and dma results of parents is appropriate and should be left.
Tuky, responsible breeder of the litter, may decide to reply yes, the dogs are tested an negative or whatever result they have, or may not reply at all.

I think it is correct to give right info to everybody, both that the litter is great (and i agree) an that the parents are tested or not for degenerative myelopathy.

wolfin · 22-12-2010, 21:12

I think she can make this ( and make ) without good people help

Rona · 22-12-2010, 21:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by massimo

Ewa is a responsible person and did things responsibly...but I am not asking about Ewa.

But it was YOU who mentioned K-lee's DM results.

Grin · 22-12-2010, 21:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by massimo

knowing Kay's sister (K-lee, who has made puppies with Echo) is a carrier,

I think you must have misunderstood her (after all both of you didn't use your native languages talking to each other, right?

).
On the 28 November Ewa wrote on Polish forum clearly that K-lee WASN'T testet yet, and because of it, being a responsible person she had chosen a testet stud dog just to be sure that K-lee's puppies would be healthy. http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showpos...&postcount=107
(I have really no business in this matter, just wanted to put things clear.

)
Regards.

z Peronówki · 22-12-2010, 21:55

Calm down people - you really see "puppy time is comming"

(in the case of Massimo it is hard to explain it as PMS....

)

Gia · 22-12-2010, 23:38

Yes, K-lee is carrier, but I think it's not right topic fot this discussion.
I did a DM test earlier, because Massimo asked me about it.

22-12-2010, 19:23	#45
massimo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Prague 6 Posts: 2,090	Hi congratulations for yor litter. Could I kindly ask you if you have done the DMA tests on your dogs before mating them? Thank you for your reply! massimo __________________ ---------- Oliver & Lunatica

22-12-2010, 20:21	#50
wolfin Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Where the wolf lives Posts: 6,095	they can be who be but this are THE best litter in Spain p.s. do You have permission from K-lee owner to publishe this results in all forums posts? Sarka one time publishe italian dogs results and have later problems with this, for this I think better when make this owner but not friend from away __________________

22-12-2010, 20:50	#52
massimo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Prague 6 Posts: 2,090	I am owner of Male who mated K-lee. I am planning to take one puppy as studfee, so I have been informed by EWA and have been authorised to speak about it becuase, responsibly, she knew before mating that Echo is N/N. Now that all these informations have been given to you...can I FINALLY get some relpies??? Gosh..objectivity is down the drain these days!! Why is everybody so scared to speak up?? It seems that I make one question, I receive many other questions, I reply but I dont get any reply. Ewa is a responsible person and did things responsibly...but I am not asking about Ewa. __________________ ---------- Oliver & Lunatica

22-12-2010, 21:10	#55
massimo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Prague 6 Posts: 2,090	Look. It is not my intention to spoil this beautiful thread about tuky's litter. I believe the last comments have no reason to be in the thread. If mod wants, they can be taken off. However i believe that my question about health and dma results of parents is appropriate and should be left. Tuky, responsible breeder of the litter, may decide to reply yes, the dogs are tested an negative or whatever result they have, or may not reply at all. I think it is correct to give right info to everybody, both that the litter is great (and i agree) an that the parents are tested or not for degenerative myelopathy. __________________ ---------- Oliver & Lunatica

22-12-2010, 21:12	#56
wolfin Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Where the wolf lives Posts: 6,095	I think she can make this ( and make ) without good people help __________________

09-12-2010, 23:36	#42
michaelundinaeichhorn Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bad Dürkheim Posts: 2,249	within Germany one to two weeks. Ina

09-12-2010, 23:43	#43
yukidomari Moderator Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Los Angeles CA Posts: 847	Thank you!

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22-12-2010, 21:55	#59
z Peronówki VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Późna Posts: 6,996	Calm down people - you really see "puppy time is comming" (in the case of Massimo it is hard to explain it as PMS.... ) __________________ . 'Z PERONÓWKI' FACEBOOK GROUP

22-12-2010, 23:38	#60
Gia K-Lee Family Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Wrocław Posts: 2,400	Yes, K-lee is carrier, but I think it's not right topic fot this discussion. I did a DM test earlier, because Massimo asked me about it. __________________ Gia, K-lee Vornja z Peronówki & Gran Rosa Amiga Atropa Bella Donna...