Penn Hip method - Page 3

yukidomari · 13-12-2013, 20:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by GalomyOak

Our first set of PennHip results/comparisons. There are a few more, but I am waiting for results/permission from owners.

Anthea od Vlci Skaly
OFA: Excellent A1 (25 mos)
FCI: *
PENN: .23/.37, No DJD (15 mos)

Taabernakkelin Hronsek
OFA: Mild C (27 mos) Unilateral Left
FCI:*
PENN: 38/.39, No DJD (17 mos)

Wasabogoa Arimminum
OFA: Good A2
FCI:*
PENN: .21/.30 No DJD

Delan van Heimrod
OFA: *
FCI: A
PENN: .25/.19 No DJD

Piter (Panicucci)
OFA: Fair (B)
FCI: B
PENN: .26/.26 No DJD

Elsa Non Solo Lupo
OFA: Good A2
FCI: *
PENN: .20/.20 No DJD

Laika Non Solo Lupo
OFA: Good A2
FCI: *
PENN:; .28/.26 No DJD

Estia D'ell Olim Palus
OFA: Moderate D Unilateral Left
FCI:*
PENN: .41/.47 Moderate DJD Unilateral Left

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete

Lapua Zlata-Palz
left .43 no DJD
right n/a due to cavitation no DJD.
acording to my pennhip vet if they felt the right hip were bad they would not have scored him. 70th percentile

Alaqua Whispering Wolf
left .33 no DJD
right .40 no DJD 80th percentile

Quote:

Originally Posted by yukidomari

Ilysia z Lasow Preczowskich (18 weeks)
OFFA: not available due to age
PennHIP: 0.44/0.46, No DJD

Wintermoon z Lasow Preczowskich (15 months)
OFFA: Preliminary Good, A-2
PennHIP: 0.26/0.26, No DJD

We will be repeating the scores at 24 months and up, and moving these scores onto offa.org.

Quote:

Originally Posted by yukidomari

Along with the above 12 known scores here are two more scores (publicly available on breeders' sites):

Garm Braterstwo Wilczakow (17 months)
OFFA: not done
PennHIP: 0.30/0.24, No DJD

Asha z Dubnicanky
OFFA: Fair (B1)
PennHIP: 0.35/0.40, DJD ?

And the most latest score, posted for BigSkyMike (having problems with WD account):

Galomy Oak Big Sky (24 months)
OFFA: Good (A2)
PennHIP: 0.32/0.28, No DJD

On the report it indicates that there are not yet 20 CsV in the database.

So we assume from the last status update with 18 dogs + Sky now there are now 19 Czechoslovakian Vlcak worldwide in the PennHIP database. We only need 1 more to establish a breed-specific set of percentile data.

yukidomari · 30-12-2013, 22:47

Master List, In alphabetical order by name:

Alaqua Whispering Wolf
OFFA: N/A
PennHIP: 0.33/0.40, no DJD

Greyfarer Aludra
OFA: Excellent (A1)
PennHIP: 0.19/0.18, No DJD

Anthea od Vlci Skaly
OFA: Excellent A1 (25 mos)
FCI: A-1
PennHIP: 0.23/0.37, No DJD (15 mos)

Asha z Dubnicanky
OFFA: Fair (B1)
PennHIP: 0.35/0.40, DJD ?

Greyfarer Ashira
OFA: Good (A2)
PennHIP: 0.19/0.21, No DJD (14 mths)

Atria Kaida Sonata Carpathica
OFA: Good (A2)
PennHIP: 0.46/0.37, No DJD

Greyfarer Azov
OFA: Good (A2)
PennHIP: 0.30/0.33, No DJD

Galomy Oak Baja
OFFA: -
PennHIP: 0.36/0.38, no DJD

Galomy Oak Big Sky (24 months)
OFFA: Good (A2)
PennHIP: 0.32/0.28, No DJD

Churel II z Peronówki
OFA: -
PennHIP: 0.27/0.20, no DJD, 90th Percentile

Delan van Heimrod
OFA: *
FCI: A
PennHIP: 0.25/0.19, No DJD

Drake Darkstar Amant Gris
OFA: A2/Good
PennHIP: 0.27/0.27, No DJD, 80th Percentile

Elsa Non Solo Lupo
OFA: Good A2
FCI: *
PennHIP: 0.20/0.20, No DJD

Estia D'ell Olim Palus
OFA: Moderate Unilateral Left
FCI: D
PennHIP: 0.41/0.47, Moderate DJD Unilateral Left

Garm Braterstwo Wilczakow (17 months)
OFFA: not done
PennHIP: 0.30/0.24, No DJD

Taabernakkelin Hronsek
OFA: Mild C (27 mos) Unilateral Left
FCI:*
PennHIP: 0.38/0.39, No DJD (17 mos)

Ilysia z Lasow Preczowskich (18 weeks)
OFFA: -
PennHIP: 0.44/0.46, No DJD

Laika Non Solo Lupo
OFA: Good A2
FCI: *
PennHIP: 0.28/0.26, No DJD

Lapua Zlata-Palz
OFFA: N/A
PennHIP: 0.43/(right N/A - cavitated), no DJD

Łojma II z Peronówki
OFFA: Excellent (A-1)
PennHIP: 0.26/0.18, no DJD, 90th percentile

Arimminum O'Lady Vivaldi
OFA: -
PennHIP: 0.27/0.26

Piter (Panicucci)
OFA: Fair (B)
FCI: B
PennHIP: 0.26/0.26, No DJD

Arimminum Wasabogoa
OFA: Good
FCI:A-2
PennHIP: 0.21/0.30, No DJD

Wintermoon z Lasow Preczowskich
OFFA: Preliminary Good, A-2
PennHIP: 0.26/0.26, No DJD, 90th Percentile

Q'Chorzyca II z Peronowki
OFA: Moderate
FCI: D
PennHIP: 0.42/0.38

yukidomari · 31-03-2014, 23:15

Another result:

Galomy Oak Baja
PennHIP: 0.36/0.38, no DJD

yukidomari · 02-10-2014, 20:52

And now finally there is CsV breed-specific PennHIP statistical laxity report:
As of August 2014, there are:

22 Czechoslovakian Vlcaks with PennHip worldwide.
Minimum (best) score: 0.20
Maximum (worst) score: 0.90
Mean: 0.36
Breakdown by percentile:
>75th percentile: 0.30
>60th percentile: 0.33
>50th percentile: 0.37
>25th percentile: 0.43

The recommendation of PennHIP regarding breeds with smaller populations is to breed from animals with scores better than the 50th percentile (better than 50% of the same breed), or with values of 0.30 or less.

Update: Average as of 10/2020 is 0.32

yukidomari · 03-10-2014, 01:06

Also, for any interested veterinary professionals:
PennHIP is transitioning to free remote training and certification in order to make the technology more widespread. The distraction instrument of course still must be purchased.

More information:
http://info.antechimagingservices.co...ing-dates.html

yukidomari · 22-02-2016, 18:21

Łojma II z Peronówki
OFFA Preliminary Excellent / A-1
PennHIP 0.26 / 0.18, no DJD, 90th Percentile (January 2016)

yukidomari · 13-06-2016, 05:23

List (post 42) updated June 10, 2016. New dogs:

Drake Darkstar Amant Gris and Arimminum O'Lady Vivaldi.

yukidomari · 28-08-2019, 23:05

List (post #42) updated 8/28/2019. New dogs:

Atria Kaida Sonata Carpathica

Greyfarer Aludra, Ashira, and Azov.

yukidomari · 24-10-2020, 07:22

New master list 10/2020:

Master List, In alphabetical order by name:

Alaqua Whispering Wolf
OFFA: N/A
PennHIP: 0.33/0.40, no DJD

Greyfarer Aludra
OFA: Excellent (A1)
PennHIP: 0.19/0.18, No DJD

Anthea od Vlci Skaly
OFA: Excellent A1 (25 mos)
FCI: A-1
PennHIP: 0.23/0.37, No DJD (15 mos)

Asha z Dubnicanky
OFFA: Fair (B1)
PennHIP: 0.35/0.40, DJD ?

Greyfarer Ashira
OFA: Good (A2)
PennHIP: 0.19/0.21, No DJD (14 mths)

Atria Kaida Sonata Carpathica
OFA: Good (A2)
PennHIP: 0.46/0.37, No DJD

Greyfarer Azov
OFA: Good (A2)
PennHIP: 0.30/0.33, No DJD

Galomy Oak Baja
OFFA: -
PennHIP: 0.36/0.38, no DJD

Galomy Oak Big Sky (24 months)
OFFA: Good (A2)
PennHIP: 0.32/0.28, No DJD

Churel II z Peronówki
OFA: -
PennHIP: 0.27/0.20, no DJD

Delan van Heimrod
OFA: *
FCI: A
PennHIP: 0.25/0.19, No DJD

Drake Darkstar Amant Gris
OFA: A2/Good
PennHIP: 0.27/0.27, No DJD

Elsa Non Solo Lupo
OFA: Good A2
FCI: *
PennHIP: 0.20/0.20, No DJD

Estia D'ell Olim Palus
OFA: Moderate Unilateral Left
FCI: D
PennHIP: 0.41/0.47, Moderate DJD Unilateral Left

Garm Braterstwo Wilczakow (17 months)
OFFA: Mild Unilateral Right
FCI: C

PennHIP: 0.30/0.24, No DJD

Taabernakkelin Hronsek
OFA: Mild C (27 mos) Unilateral Left
FCI:*
PennHIP: 0.38/0.39, No DJD (17 mos)

Ilysia z Lasow Preczowskich (18 weeks)
OFFA: -
PennHIP: 0.44/0.46, No DJD

Laika Non Solo Lupo
OFA: Good A2
FCI: *
PennHIP: 0.28/0.26, No DJD

Lapua Zlata-Palz
OFFA: N/A
PennHIP: 0.43/(right N/A - cavitated), no DJD

Łojma II z Peronówki
OFFA: Excellent (A-1)
PennHIP: 0.26/0.18, no DJD

Arimminum O'Lady Vivaldi
OFA: -
PennHIP: 0.27/0.26

Piter (Panicucci)
OFA: Fair (B)
FCI: B
PennHIP: 0.26/0.26, No DJD

Q'Chorzyca II z Peronowki
OFA: Moderate
FCI: D
PennHIP: 0.42/0.38

Arimminum Wasabogoa
OFA: Good
FCI:A-2
PennHIP: 0.21/0.30, No DJD

Wintermoon z Lasow Preczowskich
OFFA: Preliminary Good, A-2
PennHIP: 0.26/0.26, No DJD

As of 10/13/2020 the Mean score for CSV is 0.34.

0.27 75th Percentile

0.30 60th Percentile

0.32 50th Percentile

0.40 25th Percentile

31-03-2014, 23:15	#43
yukidomari Moderator Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Los Angeles CA Posts: 847	Another result: Galomy Oak Baja PennHIP: 0.36/0.38, no DJD __________________ "Learn to do well; seek judgment." www.greyfarer.com/

02-10-2014, 20:52	#44
yukidomari Moderator Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Los Angeles CA Posts: 847	And now finally there is CsV breed-specific PennHIP statistical laxity report: As of August 2014, there are: 22 Czechoslovakian Vlcaks with PennHip worldwide. Minimum (best) score: 0.20 Maximum (worst) score: 0.90 Mean: 0.36 Breakdown by percentile: >75th percentile: 0.30 >60th percentile: 0.33 >50th percentile: 0.37 >25th percentile: 0.43 The recommendation of PennHIP regarding breeds with smaller populations is to breed from animals with scores better than the 50th percentile (better than 50% of the same breed), or with values of 0.30 or less. Update: Average as of 10/2020 is 0.32 __________________ "Learn to do well; seek judgment." www.greyfarer.com/ Last edited by yukidomari; 24-10-2020 at 07:20.

03-10-2014, 01:06	#45
yukidomari Moderator Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Los Angeles CA Posts: 847	Also, for any interested veterinary professionals: PennHIP is transitioning to free remote training and certification in order to make the technology more widespread. The distraction instrument of course still must be purchased. More information: http://info.antechimagingservices.co...ing-dates.html __________________ "Learn to do well; seek judgment." www.greyfarer.com/

22-02-2016, 18:21	#46
yukidomari Moderator Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Los Angeles CA Posts: 847	Łojma II z Peronówki OFFA Preliminary Excellent / A-1 PennHIP 0.26 / 0.18, no DJD, 90th Percentile (January 2016) __________________ "Learn to do well; seek judgment." www.greyfarer.com/

13-06-2016, 05:23	#47
yukidomari Moderator Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Los Angeles CA Posts: 847	List (post 42) updated June 10, 2016. New dogs: Drake Darkstar Amant Gris and Arimminum O'Lady Vivaldi. __________________ "Learn to do well; seek judgment." www.greyfarer.com/ Last edited by yukidomari; 13-06-2016 at 18:54.

30-12-2013, 22:47	#42
yukidomari Moderator Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Los Angeles CA Posts: 847	Master List, In alphabetical order by name: Alaqua Whispering Wolf OFFA: N/A PennHIP: 0.33/0.40, no DJD Greyfarer Aludra OFA: Excellent (A1) PennHIP: 0.19/0.18, No DJD Anthea od Vlci Skaly OFA: Excellent A1 (25 mos) FCI: A-1 PennHIP: 0.23/0.37, No DJD (15 mos) Asha z Dubnicanky OFFA: Fair (B1) PennHIP: 0.35/0.40, DJD ? Greyfarer Ashira OFA: Good (A2) PennHIP: 0.19/0.21, No DJD (14 mths) Atria Kaida Sonata Carpathica OFA: Good (A2) PennHIP: 0.46/0.37, No DJD Greyfarer Azov OFA: Good (A2) PennHIP: 0.30/0.33, No DJD Galomy Oak Baja OFFA: - PennHIP: 0.36/0.38, no DJD Galomy Oak Big Sky (24 months) OFFA: Good (A2) PennHIP: 0.32/0.28, No DJD Churel II z Peronówki OFA: - PennHIP: 0.27/0.20, no DJD, 90th Percentile Delan van Heimrod OFA: * FCI: A PennHIP: 0.25/0.19, No DJD Drake Darkstar Amant Gris OFA: A2/Good PennHIP: 0.27/0.27, No DJD, 80th Percentile Elsa Non Solo Lupo OFA: Good A2 FCI: * PennHIP: 0.20/0.20, No DJD Estia D'ell Olim Palus OFA: Moderate Unilateral Left FCI: D PennHIP: 0.41/0.47, Moderate DJD Unilateral Left Garm Braterstwo Wilczakow (17 months) OFFA: not done PennHIP: 0.30/0.24, No DJD Taabernakkelin Hronsek OFA: Mild C (27 mos) Unilateral Left FCI:* PennHIP: 0.38/0.39, No DJD (17 mos) Ilysia z Lasow Preczowskich (18 weeks) OFFA: - PennHIP: 0.44/0.46, No DJD Laika Non Solo Lupo OFA: Good A2 FCI: * PennHIP: 0.28/0.26, No DJD Lapua Zlata-Palz OFFA: N/A PennHIP: 0.43/(right N/A - cavitated), no DJD Łojma II z Peronówki OFFA: Excellent (A-1) PennHIP: 0.26/0.18, no DJD, 90th percentile Arimminum O'Lady Vivaldi OFA: - PennHIP: 0.27/0.26 Piter (Panicucci) OFA: Fair (B) FCI: B PennHIP: 0.26/0.26, No DJD Arimminum Wasabogoa OFA: Good FCI:A-2 PennHIP: 0.21/0.30, No DJD Wintermoon z Lasow Preczowskich OFFA: Preliminary Good, A-2 PennHIP: 0.26/0.26, No DJD, 90th Percentile Q'Chorzyca II z Peronowki OFA: Moderate FCI: D PennHIP: 0.42/0.38 __________________ "Learn to do well; seek judgment." www.greyfarer.com/ Last edited by yukidomari; 28-08-2019 at 23:02. Reason: Update

28-08-2019, 23:05	#48
yukidomari Moderator Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Los Angeles CA Posts: 847	List (post #42) updated 8/28/2019. New dogs: Atria Kaida Sonata Carpathica Greyfarer Aludra, Ashira, and Azov. __________________ "Learn to do well; seek judgment." www.greyfarer.com/

24-10-2020, 07:22	#49
yukidomari Moderator Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Los Angeles CA Posts: 847	New master list 10/2020: Master List, In alphabetical order by name: Alaqua Whispering Wolf OFFA: N/A PennHIP: 0.33/0.40, no DJD Greyfarer Aludra OFA: Excellent (A1) PennHIP: 0.19/0.18, No DJD Anthea od Vlci Skaly OFA: Excellent A1 (25 mos) FCI: A-1 PennHIP: 0.23/0.37, No DJD (15 mos) Asha z Dubnicanky OFFA: Fair (B1) PennHIP: 0.35/0.40, DJD ? Greyfarer Ashira OFA: Good (A2) PennHIP: 0.19/0.21, No DJD (14 mths) Atria Kaida Sonata Carpathica OFA: Good (A2) PennHIP: 0.46/0.37, No DJD Greyfarer Azov OFA: Good (A2) PennHIP: 0.30/0.33, No DJD Galomy Oak Baja OFFA: - PennHIP: 0.36/0.38, no DJD Galomy Oak Big Sky (24 months) OFFA: Good (A2) PennHIP: 0.32/0.28, No DJD Churel II z Peronówki OFA: - PennHIP: 0.27/0.20, no DJD Delan van Heimrod OFA: * FCI: A PennHIP: 0.25/0.19, No DJD Drake Darkstar Amant Gris OFA: A2/Good PennHIP: 0.27/0.27, No DJD Elsa Non Solo Lupo OFA: Good A2 FCI: * PennHIP: 0.20/0.20, No DJD Estia D'ell Olim Palus OFA: Moderate Unilateral Left FCI: D PennHIP: 0.41/0.47, Moderate DJD Unilateral Left Garm Braterstwo Wilczakow (17 months) OFFA: Mild Unilateral Right FCI: C PennHIP: 0.30/0.24, No DJD Taabernakkelin Hronsek OFA: Mild C (27 mos) Unilateral Left FCI:* PennHIP: 0.38/0.39, No DJD (17 mos) Ilysia z Lasow Preczowskich (18 weeks) OFFA: - PennHIP: 0.44/0.46, No DJD Laika Non Solo Lupo OFA: Good A2 FCI: * PennHIP: 0.28/0.26, No DJD Lapua Zlata-Palz OFFA: N/A PennHIP: 0.43/(right N/A - cavitated), no DJD Łojma II z Peronówki OFFA: Excellent (A-1) PennHIP: 0.26/0.18, no DJD Arimminum O'Lady Vivaldi OFA: - PennHIP: 0.27/0.26 Piter (Panicucci) OFA: Fair (B) FCI: B PennHIP: 0.26/0.26, No DJD Q'Chorzyca II z Peronowki OFA: Moderate FCI: D PennHIP: 0.42/0.38 Arimminum Wasabogoa OFA: Good FCI:A-2 PennHIP: 0.21/0.30, No DJD Wintermoon z Lasow Preczowskich OFFA: Preliminary Good, A-2 PennHIP: 0.26/0.26, No DJD As of 10/13/2020 the Mean score for CSV is 0.34. 0.27 75th Percentile 0.30 60th Percentile 0.32 50th Percentile 0.40 25th Percentile __________________ "Learn to do well; seek judgment." www.greyfarer.com/