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Old 09-11-2011, 11:06   #41
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silly question but do dog owners in the continent not start training the minute the new pup/dog enters the home?
I would never have considered this either.

I get more and more people calling to book the dog in before they have purchased it.
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Old 09-11-2011, 11:23   #42
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So ... this is Karlos Von Konigs Terry
He is adorable
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Old 09-11-2011, 11:43   #43
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Thank you very much
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Old 09-11-2011, 11:59   #44
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Sooo Reddish!! I Love reddishes!! Me myself have a Baby Red Rat!! ...

As regarding training, I suggest: start with the first rules at home (remember: what you allow NOW that he is a Puppy, he will want to do it even when he is a HUGE wolf ... so think carefully XD), socialising him at the most (even before the vaccinations are complete, just pay attention to what he comes in contact with) and, as soon as the vaccinations are complete, go to training. If it is done well, it will teach YOU how to handle him, and it will teach HIM that you are trustful and loyal and it is good to follow and obey .

Working with one's dog is funny and gives a lot of satisfaction, at least to me!
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Old 09-11-2011, 15:20   #45
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Welcome Karlos Now the fun starts, introducing him to the big world outside of Timisoara Who is his Daddy?
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Old 09-11-2011, 17:16   #46
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I will ... after few weeks ... at least with the basic training ...
Why wait a few weeks?
We started almost immediately training Lorka in returning food (raw bone) in exchange for pieces of meat, leaving our bed or couch on command, walking on leash in the hall, "don't touch" and "come" commads, etc.
It's also a good idea to carry the pup for a walk (vaccinations!) and take him to various places to show him a bit of the world, traffic, people, and accustom him to the car (at the beginning just give him food there and play for a while). Of course such 'trainings' should be playful and very short, a few minutes every couple of hours

Belive me, it's much easier to teach the little puppy, for example that you have the right to remove anything from his mouth, than a big animal with wolf-like teeth.
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Old 09-11-2011, 18:32   #47
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Why wait a few weeks?
We started almost immediately training Lorka in returning food (raw bone) in exchange for pieces of meat, leaving our bed or couch on command, walking on leash in the hall, "don't touch" and "come" commads, etc.
It's also a good idea to carry the pup for a walk (vaccinations!) and take him to various places to show him a bit of the world, traffic, people, and accustom him to the car (at the beginning just give him food there and play for a while). Of course such 'trainings' should be playful and very short, a few minutes every couple of hours

Belive me, it's much easier to teach the little puppy, for example that you have the right to remove anything from his mouth, than a big animal with wolf-like teeth.
He is only 6 weeks old.
I think that NO it's enough for this age ... or not ?
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6 weeks old is very young to be away from mum and siblings - our pups do not leave mum till they are at least 10 weeks old. You may have trouble with his bite inhibition as he has not learnt this from his litter mates - be careful of this especially with your child... CsV puppies use their mouths a LOT in play and have no idea of their own strength
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He is only 6 weeks old.
I think that NO it's enough for this age ... or not ?
Always use more `OK` than `NO` After `NO` you must show some replacement behavior with is `OK` You can`t be this man who only prohibit
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Yes, why 6 weeks? I took Spettro when he was 8 weeks old (it seems so few time but they make ALL the difference). I wanted him to be on full in his best socialisation period (5-13 weeks) without losing the inibition of the bite of his mum. Anyway in Italy you cannot give a puppy away before 60 days or so!

And I started immediately the training, little things, always put in a playful manner, so that he had to think about it but enjoyed it.

Anyway, at 6 weeks he is old enough to learn in a playful manner the "Sit", the "down", and do not be indulgent with him now otherwise he will pretend it as an adult. You'll have to be softly strict...
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6 weeks old is very young to be away from mum and siblings - our pups do not leave mum till they are at least 10 weeks old. You may have trouble with his bite inhibition as he has not learnt this from his litter mates - be careful of this especially with your child... CsV puppies use their mouths a LOT in play and have no idea of their own strength
Hmmmm ... we already have this problem with the bite ...
Today my son cried few times because of this.
So ... this is the reason that I think No is the first command.
I will try to teach him that we are not his dolls ... he has few toys and he can bite them as much as he want.

Also because his age I think I will keep him over the night inside the house even it is a little messy ... outside are around zero Celsius degrees ... I don't know if this is a good idea but it's what I feel ...

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Add that puppy's teeth are a nightmare... and I can believe you child cries .

Ok, when he bites you, you should cry (like they do... imitate their crying), then say a kind NO and offer him something else to bite as soon as he leaves you. Be patient.

Do you know some other dog he can stay with few times a week (obviously vaccinated and equilibrated!) that can teach him how to behave?

It would help a bit.
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Our dogs always stay inside with us.

And my male CsV still uses his teeth on me sometimes too roughly, only he figured out finally after about 10 months not to put teeth on my face (but hands, arms, and legs are still OK.. ) Lots of patience and lots of repetition is necessary...
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We have only a cat ... but until now are enemies and the cat is the boss ... at least a period .... I am sure ...
I will be patient ....
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Be always careful when cat and dog are together and they may be able to live together and like it .

Spettro stays in home too, he sleeps here in house and stays with us.

He now knows how to control his bite most of the times, but with puppy's teeth I just wanted to cry XD... it will pass!
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Spettro stays in home too, he sleeps here in house and stays with us.

Sorry for asking you that ... but you guys have an yard ... ?
I prepared a nice paddock for him for day time when we are not around and my plan was to leave it outside and free during the night ... I need also to be a guard dog ...
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Yes Deocamdata, I do have a garden, but Spettro stays inside anyway.

If you need a guard dog, remember that CSWs usually do not guard Places but people. So the best place you can keep him to do this job is in home, as he will tend to warn the pack of strange things!

Spettro does a lot of guard now, if someone stays in front of my home, he will at first give me a Woof Woof to warn me and then bark loudly to warn the people outside to STAY outside XD...
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I prepared a nice paddock for him for day time when we are not around and my plan was to leave it outside and free during the night ... I need also to be a guard dog ...
For me it looks... cruel to leave so young a pup for so much time alone.
Until he came to your house, he had been spending all his time with his mum and the rest of pups. It must be a really huge shock for the baby suddenly to be left all alone...
Staying alone is always one of the most difficult issues with vlcaks. Of course it should be taught, but gradually...
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For sure it is a cruelty for a young puppy. Now he is staying in house during the night and also from time to time during the day. I don't want to get used him only inside ...
But for a dog ... it's a normal situation in my opinion ...
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For sure it is a cruelty for a young puppy. Now he is staying in house during the night and also from time to time during the day. I don't want to get used him only inside ...
But for a dog ... it's a normal situation in my opinion ...
I understand you very well. But don't forget that people on this forum want the best for their dogs. Some of us even put dog first and then human. So the idea that he is still a dog, differs from person to person. I'm also living with my czw's in the house. They have a big yard of 2000 sqm and two big paddoks, but they prefer the house and they NEED to be in contact with people all the time (especially family). So you try to think that this is not a dog, but most wolf and look at many documentaries about wolf behaviour. It is vital for your puppy to stay more than half of the day with you, especially in this critical period, which is so important in his forming. A loose dog will do only what he wants and this is not good for his future training. Must be equilibrium between "no" and "good boy". He needs your appreciation and feedback on everything. You need to have a lot of communication to him, and most of all, he needs to know that your son is also as important as any other family member and he is also a pack leader.
It's also important to train him not to pee in the house.
You can put him stay outside, in the paddock, but you must reward him every time he enters and stay there and then increase the time progressivelly. He must not preceive it like a punishment. And when you establish a rule, don't deviate form it. And remember: he will always try to be the boss. The success for his training lies only in your hands (and your family's).
Every dog will defend its teritory. So I'm sure that your dog will bark at the people or dogs approaching your home. But, as other colleagues here said it: the czw is best for personal defence. They would love to defend you and your family.
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