Angulation and the construction of the front - the difference between GSD & CzW

z Peronówki · 01-03-2013, 19:54

Angulation and the construction of the front - the difference between German Shepherd and Czechoslovakian Wolfdog

For a longer time I was thinking to prepare a sketch showing the difference in the construction of the front between German Shepherd Dog and Czechoslovakian Wolfdog. But it turns out that someone did it before me. A long time ago...

In the book von Max von Stephanitz (the father of the German Shepherd) from 1901 you can find such sketch:

1. shows how should be angulated / built front of German Shepherd Dog
2. shows how should be angulated / built front of ... Czechoslovakian Wolfdog...

OK, officially 1. is the correct front for GSD, 2. is a uncorrect front for a Shepherd (too much angle and too "shallow" chest (not reaching the ellbows)).

But in the case of Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs it is exactly the opposite - front of German Sheoherd Dog is a FAULT by our breed because the correct angulation should be exactly 120° (as you can read in the breed standard) and chest should not reaching the ellbows (it is one of the main characteristisc for CzWs). Sketch 2. shows front of a typical Czechoslovakian Wolfdog.

What does it mean ...? On his sketch Stephanitz showed also the typical gait ("Schrittweite") affiliated with the construction and angulation. It is good visible that legs of Shepherd Dogs are reaching much more forwards as they should reach by Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs.

This shows that the promotion during dog shows animals with legs reaching much forwards is a promotion of untypical Wolfdogs representing so called "Czechoslovakian Shepherd type"...

Vaiva · 04-03-2013, 15:14

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Originally Posted by z Peronówki

This shows that the promotion during dog shows animals with legs reaching much forwards is a promotion of untypical Wolfdogs representing so called "Czechoslovakian Shepherd type"...

So in fact a correct way to show a wolfdog is not the one where a dog has to show long steps? Did I get it right?

(So happy to see new and useful topics on this forum, makes me hope it will be just as it used to bee some time ago

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hekate · 05-03-2013, 10:18

Have you a drawing of the angulation of the wolf?
It could be interesting to compare with the Czechoslovakian Wolfdog

01-03-2013, 19:54	#1
z Peronówki VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Późna Posts: 6,996	Angulation and the construction of the front - the difference between GSD & CzW Angulation and the construction of the front - the difference between German Shepherd and Czechoslovakian Wolfdog For a longer time I was thinking to prepare a sketch showing the difference in the construction of the front between German Shepherd Dog and Czechoslovakian Wolfdog. But it turns out that someone did it before me. A long time ago... In the book von Max von Stephanitz (the father of the German Shepherd) from 1901 you can find such sketch: 1. shows how should be angulated / built front of German Shepherd Dog 2. shows how should be angulated / built front of ... Czechoslovakian Wolfdog... OK, officially 1. is the correct front for GSD, 2. is a uncorrect front for a Shepherd (too much angle and too "shallow" chest (not reaching the ellbows)). But in the case of Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs it is exactly the opposite - front of German Sheoherd Dog is a FAULT by our breed because the correct angulation should be exactly 120° (as you can read in the breed standard) and chest should not reaching the ellbows (it is one of the main characteristisc for CzWs). Sketch 2. shows front of a typical Czechoslovakian Wolfdog. What does it mean ...? On his sketch Stephanitz showed also the typical gait ("Schrittweite") affiliated with the construction and angulation. It is good visible that legs of Shepherd Dogs are reaching much more forwards as they should reach by Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs. This shows that the promotion during dog shows animals with legs reaching much forwards is a promotion of untypical Wolfdogs representing so called "Czechoslovakian Shepherd type"... __________________ . 'Z PERONÓWKI' FACEBOOK GROUP

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