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Old 10-10-2011, 23:37   #1
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There will always be those who claim to have something they don't, sadly there is no way to stop this.

What may help is, educating the public about the breed and the crosses and what they should be looking for.


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yes,thats what im trying feel im fighting a loosing battle.....alone(it feels like) lol
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We will fight this battle someday here...when people realize more that our breed exists. It's something malamute owners have been dealing with for a long time - when wolf cross owners want to avoid detection from breed specific legislation, home owners insurance, or if the wolf cross is involved in some sort of legal trouble. I think it is only sometime until the owner of a wolfcross (or other mixed-breed with some similarity) claims it to be a Vlcak here...hopefully not in the case of the dog biting someone or attacking another dog. And of course we have Tamaskans etc. here, but so far (other than Aatu people trying to use our males for studs ) we have had no problems with any of the Tamaskan factions trying to claim they are pure Vlcaks or vice versa. But no, I don't guess there is any way to stop other people from making false claims. You can only protect yourself as best you can...build a good public image with the breed, get them involved where they are seen in a happy way - dog sport, therapy work, etc. I am adament about making sure there are no questions about what or how my dogs or their offspring are, especially for breed "outsiders"...in any way I can - AKC pedigree, DNA profile, importing dogs from reputable breeders, training in many different things, making sure my dog is always under control and social if it is out in public.
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yes,thats what im trying feel im fighting a loosing battle.....alone(it feels like) lol
Isnt scruffts part of the discover dogs show in november? Or am I getting things confused?

If so, how does it work. Are only kc reg breeds allowed stalls/stans or can non kc reg breeds/mixes have them too?

Would be a great future opportunity for education if there is a way to get the csv in there.


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Old 12-10-2011, 00:38   #4
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Isnt scruffts part of the discover dogs show in november? Or am I getting things confused?

If so, how does it work. Are only kc reg breeds allowed stalls/stans or can non kc reg breeds/mixes have them too?

Would be a great future opportunity for education if there is a way to get the csv in there.


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as far as i know(could be wrong) scrufts is the competition..and its 'showing' and u have to qualify...also srufts is for crossbreeds
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Isnt scruffts part of the discover dogs show in november? Or am I getting things confused?

If so, how does it work. Are only kc reg breeds allowed stalls/stans or can non kc reg breeds/mixes have them too?

Would be a great future opportunity for education if there is a way to get the csv in there.


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I think Non-KC breeds can have stands - as long as there is some recognition. It might be that the dogs have to be on the import register though or have registration docs from the relevant organisation....

However - I will drop an email to the KC.....
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as you guys know,there are not many pure csv's and swh in the uk but still there are some.....the breed (csv)is not established in its own right and many people have not met a pure...but quite a few have met crosses(mixes)and own them....its become more and more apparent that some of these 'owners' call their dogs pure or vlcaks! ...when pushed and asked they explain what breed/types are in their dogs..so they do know that they do not own pure

i also know of a few dogs that were bought as pure and sold on as pure(not directly from the breeder) yet one look at the dog shows they are not(and also where they were originally bred)so these people do not even know what a wd should even look like let alone act like!

i feel its very damaging to the breed as these are not representatives of the BREED yet are being 'passed off' as such...but what can be done?...i fear not alot
between pacino wolf zone and lee church there has been 10 litters of pure bred czechoslovakian wolfdogs bred in the uk, with a total of 89 pure bred pups, so what ever are you blithering about now, you know much about nothing,,,,,,,pacino and wolfzone have between them imported 6 pure czech wolfdogs and have two coming in next month, pacino kennels have used two european czech wolfdogs to stud there bitchs producing new lines, so between pacino and wolf zone they have enough bloodlines to breed for at least 8 years,, all you people now talking the talk about the future of the czech wolfdogs in uk, first of all get your facts right then do something to help LIKE IMPORTING SOME DOGS,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, if you want to know if a wolfdog is a pure bred or not instead of pissing off ronnie winder why dont you ask him all you need to do is give him name of breeder that is all as he will know if they can produce pure czechs,
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between pacino wolf zone and lee church there has been 10 litters of pure bred czechoslovakian wolfdogs bred in the uk, with a total of 89 pure bred pups, so what ever are you blithering about now, you know much about nothing,,,,,,,pacino and wolfzone have between them imported 6 pure czech wolfdogs and have two coming in next month, pacino kennels have used two european czech wolfdogs to stud there bitchs producing new lines, so between pacino and wolf zone they have enough bloodlines to breed for at least 8 years,, all you people now talking the talk about the future of the czech wolfdogs in uk, first of all get your facts right then do something to help LIKE IMPORTING SOME DOGS,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, if you want to know if a wolfdog is a pure bred or not instead of pissing off ronnie winder why dont you ask him all you need to do is give him name of breeder that is all as he will know if they can produce pure czechs,
what are u blathering on about i wasnt even talking about lee,wolfzone or mr winder

as for pissing him/you off...how have i?

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