British Kennel Club Recognition

[happyfeet]

and some would just like their pets to be recognised and not be breeding machines?

all this ranting must look awful to newbies, mini reminder that this is an open forum and that you are being viewed by many people i.e. guests and this threads not promoting recognition in the UK very well at all

[yukidomari]

Originally Posted by happyfeet

and some would just like their pets to be recognised and not be breeding machines?

And a nice goal.

But how is that contrary to what I'm saying? All I'm saying is there has got to be some rules in place. Is that unreasonable?

[Tassle]

Originally Posted by yukidomari

And a nice goal.

But how is that contrary to what I'm saying? All I'm saying is there has got to be some rules in place. Is that unreasonable?

Certainly not, and possibly the direction I am coming from is similar to you.

My fear would be that if certain people were not allowed in, objections could be made at a later date which would prevent things from moving forwards, *if* a fair way could be found, then said people would not have objections at a later date.

[happyfeet]

as a newbie here, in my opinion {which perhaps doesnt really count in the whole scheme of things} and as an owner of a registered dog as a family pet , I am not convinced by the other members of the inner circle to their true intentions. Who decides who to include or not to include its seems very underhanded . Reading it from the start its enough to put anyone off.

I agree it has to start somewhere but surely the 'inner circle' needs to show to others they are true and fair and equal? This is not whats being reflected!

[yukidomari]

Originally Posted by happyfeet

I agree it has to start somewhere but surely the 'inner circle' needs to show to others they are true and fair and equal? This is not whats being reflected!

I agree with you!

[happyfeet]

Originally Posted by yukidomari

I agree with you!

theres a first time for everything! my hearts in the right place but I find this 'inner circle' thingy a little un easy

[Tassle]

Originally Posted by happyfeet

theres a first time for everything! my hearts in the right place but I find this 'inner circle' thingy a little un easy

Maybe use the word committee then, as with every breed club, a chairperson, secretary etc - tis exactly the same thing isn't it?

[Tassle]

Just a quick search on the Web came up with this, but this does not seem to be in relation to setting up a breed club, just standard rules that have to be adhered to *if* the KC get involved.
http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/item/480

Possibly Hedeon could email his contact and ask what rules have to be adhered to if setting up a breed club?

....That is if you want to go down the KC route?

[tupacs2legs]

Originally Posted by Tassle

Maybe use the word committee then, as with every breed club, a chairperson, secretary etc - tis exactly the same thing isn't it?

this is my confusion as to why there is a problem

[Nebulosa]

Originally Posted by HappyFeet

I agree it has to start somewhere but surely the 'inner circle' needs to show to others they are true and fair and equal? This is not whats being reflected!

Surely the "inner circle" will have to show not only for UK people how serious they are, but also convince the breeders about it.

As we can have an "inner circle" with new people interested in work, we can have an "inner circle" with people who only wants new blood for their mixes.

[Nebulosa]

Originally Posted by happyfeet

and some would just like their pets to be recognised and not be breeding machines?

all this ranting must look awful to newbies, mini reminder that this is an open forum and that you are being viewed by many people i.e. guests and this threads not promoting recognition in the UK very well at all

What difference makes to have an paper telling your dog if of breed to an owner who does have his dog as Pet and nor even think about the possibility of make a litter?

Yes, I hope everyone from UK who loves CzW, who breed mixes or who wants to breed pure dogs read this topic, and realise that THANKS the people who start with the breed in your country we have such situation.
That thanks to them people who want to make a serious work will have to fight for gain the trust of the breeders again and that trust is a very fragile thing which can be broken at any small mistake.
Suppose european breeders start to trust you now and accept to send some dogs to your country, then years after it this same breeder discouver that their pups, sended to UK for breed pure dogs, has been used to make mixes and help unscrupulous people to gain money with pointless breeding?

Sorry, but for me as breeder it would be like an forever place for UK in my blacklist, and I can be sure that yout country will not be only at my list.

[pixie]

We certainly need a comitee but not just breeders owners as well, and we have to have a sound membership procedure, so that people are vetted as best we can, and we definetly need to contact the KC to find out exact requirments for recognition

[Nebulosa]

Happyfeet and Blaidd banned for being clones also for start to act like an troll.
Topic cleaned as well, we can continue talking about CzW in Uk.

[tupacs2legs]

Originally Posted by Nebulosa

Happyfeet and Blaidd banned for being clones also for start to act like an troll.
Topic cleaned as well, we can continue talking about CzW in Uk.

Yes,back on topic now... Thankyou nebulosa