CZW-"unpredictable and dangerous"??? - Page 2

dolev · 21-10-2005, 02:03

Natalia I wrote a very long reply but my computer had stucked when I finished writing.

So just few questions:
1) How do you know Anna Dyman?
2) How do you Gennadij?
3) Who told you the stories about his dogs ?
4) Where are you from ?

Maybe I'll talk to Anna and ask her about the real facts.
Can you ask Anna to post replys here?

Natalya · 21-10-2005, 10:03

Dolevro, please, don't bother Anna now - she has some problems within her family and can't read our forum.

I'm from Moscow, Russia. As you probably know, Anna is a Russian, too. Several years ago Anna asked my advice about CzW - it was before she took Abba from Genady and at that moment I already had my Brian. So I told her about my experience.

Actually, I admire Anna. She's a real hero, she took an adult and non-socialized dog and changed its behaviour completely.

If you have good relationships with Genady - it's great, because every dog owner should be in touch with the breeder. But you should understand that some things he had done are really bad.

dolev · 21-10-2005, 13:54

I understand that the Gennadij's dogs are non-socialised but he is not guilty about it. You must understand that he lives in a very far and small setllement - only few people live there and there aren't streets full of people and cars. Further more, there aren't any streets at all.
The problem is not the breeder here.

I see you have good contact with Anna so when she'll be able to read the forum tell her about our discussion and maybe she'll give answers here.

Btw I'd like to ask you something about my dog's training, suggest we'll talk by e-mail.

Mirkawolf · 21-10-2005, 16:39

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Originally Posted by Dolevro

I understand that the Gennadij's dogs are non-socialised but he is not guilty about it. You must understand that he lives in a very far and small setllement - only few people live there and there aren't streets full of people and cars. Further more, there aren't any streets at all. The problem is not the breeder here.

The breeder is guilty. It´s no problem to put the dog in the car and take him to the city or nearest village at least once or twice a week. If you want to have socialised and "stable" wolfdog, you have to do it. If you don´t have time or will for that, don´t breed and don´t get Czechoslovakian wolfdog.
Every dog breed has it´s needs. I hope one day finally people will understand it.

Natalya · 21-10-2005, 17:12

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Originally Posted by Dolevro

I understand that the Gennadij's dogs are non-socialised but he is not guilty about it.

Here I completely agree with Mirka. If he had no conditions for socializing dogs, he should choose some other breed, not CzW. It's like to buy Borzoi or Greyhound and don't let them running.

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Originally Posted by Dolevro

Btw I'd like to ask you something about my dog's training, suggest we'll talk by e-mail.

Of course, you can write me anytime and I'll try to answer all your questions. But remember, that on this forum there are a lot of people who have much more experience with CzW than me. Feel free to ask all our community, too!

Koos · 22-10-2005, 17:09

Hello

As Natalya said, there are a lot of people with great experiences in all kinds of questions.

Don't hesitate about some subjects and several people will answer you., of give you advise to handle.

Many greatings,

Letty from Holland

Ori · 22-10-2005, 21:46

We made a new photo today
Amber and A Little Red Riding Hood

Koos · 23-10-2005, 00:28

Look at the picture and you can see how dangerous these kind of dogs are,

Letty

Ori · 23-10-2005, 00:33

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Originally Posted by KoosLetydeGraaff

Look at the picture and you can see how dangerous these kind of dogs are,

Letty

you are in a 100% right!!!

mijke · 23-10-2005, 21:59

And see also this example of the "unliable CsW breed", playing on trampoline with a little child

And even when she did fall down on his bottom he was not impressed

For your info this dog did not know this child and did see her the first time 5 minutes before jumping

BUT: I'll never let dogs alone with little children without that I am in the neighberhood (because they speak other body "languages") And this is not something I do with only CsW, but with all kind of othre breeds!

Nebulosa · 25-10-2005, 23:36

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Originally Posted by Natalya

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dolevro

I understand that the Gennadij's dogs are non-socialised but he is not guilty about it.

Here I completely agree with Mirka. If he had no conditions for socializing dogs, he should choose some other breed, not CzW. It's like to buy Borzoi or Greyhound and don't let them running.

Even though the Borzoi and the Greyhoud need to be socializing for not becoming fearful or aggressive.
If it does not have conditions for this, is better not to have a dog.

22-10-2005, 21:46	#27
Ori Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Poznań, Poland Posts: 1,471	We made a new photo today Amber and A Little Red Riding Hood __________________ www.jantarowawataha.pl

23-10-2005, 21:59	#30
mijke Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Warnsveld Posts: 2,033	And see also this example of the "unliable CsW breed", playing on trampoline with a little child And even when she did fall down on his bottom he was not impressed For your info this dog did not know this child and did see her the first time 5 minutes before jumping BUT: I'll never let dogs alone with little children without that I am in the neighberhood (because they speak other body "languages") And this is not something I do with only CsW, but with all kind of othre breeds! __________________ Vriendelijke groeten, Mijke PS: I am not a moderator anymore!!

21-10-2005, 02:03	#21
dolev Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 7	Natalia I wrote a very long reply but my computer had stucked when I finished writing. So just few questions: 1) How do you know Anna Dyman? 2) How do you Gennadij? 3) Who told you the stories about his dogs ? 4) Where are you from ? Maybe I'll talk to Anna and ask her about the real facts. Can you ask Anna to post replys here?

21-10-2005, 10:03	#22
Natalya Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Moscow Posts: 262	Dolevro, please, don't bother Anna now - she has some problems within her family and can't read our forum. I'm from Moscow, Russia. As you probably know, Anna is a Russian, too. Several years ago Anna asked my advice about CzW - it was before she took Abba from Genady and at that moment I already had my Brian. So I told her about my experience. Actually, I admire Anna. She's a real hero, she took an adult and non-socialized dog and changed its behaviour completely. If you have good relationships with Genady - it's great, because every dog owner should be in touch with the breeder. But you should understand that some things he had done are really bad.

21-10-2005, 13:54	#23
dolev Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 7	I understand that the Gennadij's dogs are non-socialised but he is not guilty about it. You must understand that he lives in a very far and small setllement - only few people live there and there aren't streets full of people and cars. Further more, there aren't any streets at all. The problem is not the breeder here. I see you have good contact with Anna so when she'll be able to read the forum tell her about our discussion and maybe she'll give answers here. Btw I'd like to ask you something about my dog's training, suggest we'll talk by e-mail.

22-10-2005, 17:09	#26
Koos Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 731	Hello As Natalya said, there are a lot of people with great experiences in all kinds of questions. Don't hesitate about some subjects and several people will answer you., of give you advise to handle. Many greatings, Letty from Holland

23-10-2005, 00:28	#28
Koos Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 731	Look at the picture and you can see how dangerous these kind of dogs are, Letty