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seems to get worst ;( just mention the word 'wolf" out here and everyone panics ;( this happened to my group several months ago, may I share one of the answer posts that was written by one of our REAL experts out here to my group of Shiloh owners & breeders? Little Red Riding Hood syndrome... EVERYONE Please READ! I have to thank all of you, and especially the ones who started the rumors of the Big Bad Wolf infiltrating the Shiloh's. I have been laughing my butt off going through all the posts. My name is Jim Hopkin. Rambo McGuire is my dog. He is deceased now, and is sorely missed. He died from an over-reaction to anesthesia. He was one of the best dogs I ever had. He is PURE DOG, NOT a drop of wolfblood in him that VonStephanitz didn't personally put in his ancestors. He is AKC all the way. Tina now has a copy of his AKC papers. He is Chani and Elijah's sire, both of which were born in my house, Elijah (OFA excellent)on my bed in the middle of the night (don't you just love it when that happens):-). Elijah and Chani's dams are mine too and are DOGS. Sorry, no wolfblood in these either. Jett, Elija's dam is at my feet as I type this. She is a solid black GSD, just turned 11 years old and can still run like the wind, thus her name, Jett. She dates back to Phantom vonLeberland, a very famous solid black Champion whose picture is in most of your good GSD books. Susha was neutered due to her age and complications from her one litter which produced Chani. She is a sable bitch and a pretty hard bitch. My ex-girlfriend has her now that she doesn't have me to protect her. ![]() Her mom is Starr, my FIRST Shiloh that I got from Tina more than 12 years ago and is an AKC GSD. Yes, the OLD Shiloh's HAD AKC papers. I have got to laugh.... hasn't anyone ever watched Discovery channel or seen some of the good picture books about wolves? Any dummy can tell a silly dog from a wolf if they just LOOK at them. Even a Wolfdog (hybrid is a misnomer as dogs are a subspecies of wolf) retains WOLF traits down to 10-15% that are undeniable. Take a look at Horand (Hektor)SV#1 if you have access to any of VonStephanitz old books. "Word and Picture".. ring any bells? Hektor has a pure wolf grandmother. Ok, for all you conspiracy freaks out there, VonStephanitz is the guy who INVENTED the G.S.D.in the early part of the last century. His favorite dog, Hektor, he registered as the first dog in his registry. SV#1. ALL decent G.S.D. can trace back to him. So you all have wolfdogs already and didn't know it? Look at his picture when you find one... that's a quarter wolf. See any of those around your house? No? well that G.S.D. or Shiloh Shepherd you have lounging on the couch is probably the closest you will ever get to a wolf. Be happy that there was a guy smart enough(100 years ago) to breed out the undesirable wolf traits so you can have an intelligent, loyal, strong, protective animal as a family member who doesn't thirst for your blood while you soundly sleep. I'm sorry, that was a little sarcastic, but I have heard this all before.. bloodthirsty visions of danger and havoc because of God's dog. I just happen to know a wee bit about Wolfdogs and wolves as I have served on the Board of Directors as Director of Standards for the USAWA, the United States American Wolfdog Association for over 16 years. In fact, the reason I became interested in Shiloh Shepherds in the late 1980's was due to the fact that I was searching for a sound, strong, intelligent and loyal breed of dog with a high "willingness to please" to put INTO MY Wolfdogs. You see, generally, Wolfdogs lack one thing...... a willingness to please. Wolves are timid by nature. Hard to believe but true. They are horrible at protection and are darn near impossible to housebreak. My idea was to bring some stable DOG genes into my Wolfdogs and get some animals with a willingness to please. Since I knew the GSD was already a breed with recent Wolf heritage I searched all over America for the BEST "old type" GSD and I found 2 places that had GSD that fit my strict requirements, Tina being one of them. NONE of the big American show kennels had anything I wanted. I gave up my "project" when my last Wolfdog passed away at 14 years of age. I am now thoroughly satisfied and only have G.S.D. and am thrilled that they are from wolves, even if it was over 100 years ago that their ancestors roamed the European continent, wild and free. NONE of my dogs have ANY wolfblood that isn't 100 years old, not one of them. Neither does Elijah or Chani or BoDog. As far as I know, and I know a few hundred wolfdogs personally from my work with USAWA, VonStephanitz was the last person to successfully create a reliable dog breed using wolfblood. Too bad he didn't live long enough to see the end result of his efforts.I know Tina likes wolves, and Lisa too, but like me they know that adding wolfblood to a dog is not only unnecessary but just plain dumb if you are trying to improve the best darn dog breed anywhere, the Shiloh Shepherd. I can document everything above for any skeptics out there. I have a copy of the ORIGINAL stud books, from Germany, with pictures and lineage's, breedings and VonStephanitz notes and charts that I tracked over 2 continents, over a period of 2 solid years from a rumor I heard once from a GSD breeder. My grandkids, should I have any (my daughter is 17)will get those books. They prove the origins of the GSD. I also have pictures off all my dogs and all their pedigrees and papers from the AKC. Let me know what you need to understand the truth. OK, now, I understand the misconception that led to this fun and games is due to a pedigree of Elijah that my brother e-mailed to someone who wanted to see it. It lists not only his AKC registration # but also his USAWA registration #. Let me explain something. USAWA registration #s have a secret code built into them so that USAWA knows WHAT the animal IS. Is it a Wolf? a DOG, or a cross? I will not reveal what the codes are for the Wolf and wolfcrosses (due to legalities) but the dog codes are as follows. The first digits of the registration # that start with the letter P are DOGS, the letter stands for "PURE" and the second digit determines the dog breed, in Rambo's case the "G" stands for German Shepherd Dog. Were they malamutes or Huskies, they would carry "PM" or "PH" numbers. "PG" stands for Pure German Shepherd, not Parental Guidance. ![]() Now, follow me please. Rambo WAS used as stud to a few WOLFDOG bitches. OH NO!...... not to worry, he was also the sire of a few DOG litters too. Pretty cool eh? Look at Elijah and Chani and tell me he wasn't a great stud dog. Not to mention NOBODY was allowed to drown around Rambo either. He was a fully functional "BayWatch" dog. My daughter is a "water rat" and I trained him to make sure she wouldn't drown at the lake which we frequented when Heather was a little tyke. He was so good at it, that he was a pain in the butt about it...literally. Should anyone in our family swim past his "invisible line" from shore he would come and GET YOU back to shore. If you were cooperative, he offered his tail as a handle to hold all the way in to shore but if you weren't, his favorite handle on you was your shorts.... and he would pull you all the way back. No kidding. No self respecting Wolfdog would ever be caught working at that job, let me tell you. Ok, and for all you out there that are stuck in the dark ages let me stop you right there. One breeding has ZERO effect on another breeding. For example. Let's say you are Italian and your first marriage was to a Ukrainian. Your children from that union are half Ukrainian and half Italian, right? Ok, good, now let's say your next marriage is to a Martian, ok? So your kids from that union are half Italian and half Martian, right? They have zero Ukrainian in them right? OK, just in case someone wasn't sure about that. One more thing.. and I hope it's the last one or I may have to make this post into a hardcover version. :-) Rambo, Starr, Jett, all my DOGS have USAWA registration numbers as do many other folks' regular dogs. USAWA is an international breed club, like the ones you have for the Shilohs and we require ALL dogs used for breeding or even merely to compete in our National shows, even if just for the Olympics, Agility or Fun classes they MUST be registered to compete. Thus the USAWA #s, but remember, the PG is for PURE GERMAN SHEPHERD which must be proven to USAWA satisfaction to get those #s. Take a look at the pictures, if Tina doesn't have any, I do and will gladly send some to anyone who has any doubts. Then look at the pedigrees and you will see. Now please... all of you... get back to business, ok? You all are part of the Shiloh Shepherd, the BEST all around DOG... anywhere. How many times have you been able to take your dogs in public where someone didn't stop you to ask questions and admire the fine animal you are privileged to have in your care? ever? With love for all the fuzzos, Jim Hopkin Heatherly Farm, USA |
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