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Alt 06-03-2010, 12:26 AM   #1
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Hi, added "CZ breeding groups" feature in the Stat tool, let me know if it's working properly. You can also use + feature between IDs to simulate a mating.

Exemples:

Akim z Revíru vlku
Akim z Revíru vlku + Arielle la Seven Loup Cie
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Alt 06-03-2010, 08:12 AM   #2
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wow this is just to good

Now I can play the hole weekend

Very best regards / Mikael
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Alt 06-03-2010, 05:03 PM   #3
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I gave a short test for those groups criterions consistency, seems not very high, which means the expected "breeding effect" would not be as desired.

For exemple too many dogs in group X are also in group Y and/or Z etc. This is mainly probably because the dogs chosen to define groups are not discriminating enough, it would be maybe needed to redefine the groups criterions (for exemple by using more "recent dogs" ?). In this thread http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showthread.php?t=9817 we can see more contemporary dogs heavily present in current living dogs pedigrees, just picked some of them:

3.23256510027% -- 1991.11.13 -- Dora Šedá eminence (4212)
2.61552275919% -- 1993.01.05 -- Amur z Dáblova kanonu CS (340
2.19878893929% -- 1992.03.10 -- Besi Zeper CS (2865)
2.19802147369% -- 1990.02.16 -- Alma z Kladenské záre CS (2864)
2.18036976493% -- 1991.01.29 -- Ajax Brevnovská stopa CS (2841)
2.13048450103% -- 1992.05.30 -- Aras z Jundrovského boru CS (2776)
2.10976292988% -- 1992.02.02 -- Omar z Krotkovského dvora CS (2749)
2.10669306748% -- 1994.09.26 -- Charon Šedá eminence (2745)
2.0990184115% -- 1991.01.29 -- Atos Brevnovská stopa CS (2735)
1.77668286019% -- 1993.03.04 -- Colt Zeper CS (2315)
1.73600718348% -- 1991.10.05 -- Farna Jimili CS (2262)

4.26505400943% -- 1996.10.24 -- Dalos Duna Fehérlófia (2144)
3.37185939645% -- 1996.10.17 -- Dik Brevnovská stopa CS (1695)
2.50054705683% -- 1996.10.24 -- Dinon Dánon Fehérlófia (1257)
2.32946746504% -- 1995.01.17 -- Adon Irpruš (1171)
2.10467683861% -- 1996.09.29 -- Juna Hlas divociny CS (105
1.91768286618% -- 1996.10.17 -- Dita Brevnovská stopa CS (964)
1.85004674849% -- 1996.11.10 -- Milo Ruskov dvor CS (930)
1.83612166544% -- 1995.10.27 -- Ali Reolup (923)
1.81225009449% -- 1998.10.27 -- Clover ---(priv. Rienzi)--- (911)
1.79832501144% -- 1996.10.22 -- Cira Volání rodu (904)

5.84204098249% -- 2000.03.15 -- Oasia ---Passo del Lupo--- (861)
5.40778938798% -- 2001.04.12 -- Cutt ---dell'Irco Sortiere--- (797)
2.68693174108% -- 2002.10.03 -- Miky Passo del Lupo (396)
1.58094721129% -- 2000.05.15 -- Jolly z Molu Es (233)
1.39774731985% -- 2000.01.02 -- Legra ---Passo del Lupo--- (206)
1.32989550821% -- 2000.01.25 -- Fallko Kollárov dvor (196)


Said in other words, nowadays it's maybe more relevant for a dog to be said for exemple X% of Dalos Duna Fehérlófia and Y% of Cutt ---dell'Irco Sortiere--- etc, than to be X% of Gar z Rosíkova and Y% of Káj z Rosíkova.

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Alt 06-03-2010, 06:33 PM   #4
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Hi elf,
great job, thanks a lot!!!!

I think that in Czech Breeding Commitee they needed to classify according to the "ancient" dogs, as this must have been started years ago.
From these classifications we can nevertheless define "interesting Pedigree" concerning blood lines.

Is there any chance to observe the character - ok, bonitation codes exist, but I sometimes would like to see them more differenciated...

Because...in my oppinion the character of a dog - and how he/she gives it to his/her puppies is important as well. CVC are special when it comes to characterising, and I have observed some kind of "fade out" of several character-parts in recent breeding - at least in Germany.

e.g. someone who likes to work with their dogs might find dogs from group IV more interesting... you know where I´m heading?
Others might have exellent blood but their puppies are more aggressiv or shy or...
Doesn´t that count in "interesting pedigrees"? (this is quite hypothetic as I do not know many CZ wolfdogs, nor enough wolfdogs from whereever to judge somehow)

Once again, thanks for this great tool - like Mikael already said: something to play with all weekend

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Alt 06-04-2010, 08:26 AM   #5
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Hi Elf, I understant not all what you wrote. For example my Ali Reolup: can he to be in two groups in your statistic? Why? explain.....
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Alt 06-04-2010, 09:00 AM   #6
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Hi Hanka, it's ok for Ali we could say he's in group VI: http://www.amicale-chien-loup-tcheco....py?dog_id=166

For exemple this dog was said to be in group VII: http://www.amicale-chien-loup-tcheco...py?dog_id=7339 but we could say he's in II and V aswell.
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Alt 06-04-2010, 09:27 AM   #7
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Ok, I write you email
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