What is this?

yukidomari · 10-03-2011, 03:38

This:

http://www.ukcdogs.com/WebSite.nsf/8...ElemFormat=gif

is the current graphic used by the UKC to illustrate an ideal CsV. It accompanies the standards.

Even back in 2007 when I first started reading about CsV and the standards, I thought that the picture made the dog look very drab, and indeed, plain and even ugly. In fact I don't think it looks much like a CsV at all, much less an 'ideal' one.

What does everyone else think? Is it a good representative picture?

draggar · 10-03-2011, 03:52

It looks cartoonish to me.

Vaiva · 10-03-2011, 09:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by yukidomari

What does everyone else think? Is it a good representative picture?

Oh god, no, this is a truly wrong picture

Totally wrong position and lenght of tail, the dog in picture has too little hair, untypical head and - hard to be exact with drawing, but his chest is... hm... too round, it should get more narrow when going down. Also the coloration is not tipical for a wolfdog... I also don't like his shoulder - guess it is "too straight", isn't it?

Hanka · 10-03-2011, 09:35

Very bad picture.

Rona · 10-03-2011, 11:52

To me it seems a drawing of an early GSD. Margo put some similar ones in this thread (2nd post):http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showthread.php?t=14750

draggar · 10-03-2011, 12:31

I'm looking at a bunch of their picture and none of them look really good. I noticed the Belgian shepherd doesn't have one - maybe the UBSDA had them remove it (or that there are 4 varieties of the BSD?)?

I think the issue is that these are like sketches, which never look like a good representation. Does anyone have a sketch of a CSV that looks good?

When the club is finalized with UKC - maybe this is something (well, one of the many things) we can work on.

GalomyOak · 10-03-2011, 12:59

LOL! Agreed! I always wondered if the judges were thinking of this image when they judged my dogs.

Mikael · 10-03-2011, 19:38

Is this some kind of joke

Best regards / Mikael

tupacs2legs · 11-03-2011, 23:49

looks like an Australian kelpie to me

Silvester · 12-03-2011, 12:33

yeah...but even for a Kelpie it´s more a kind of caricature or bad joke !

yukidomari · 18-03-2011, 05:06

Thanks for all the responses.

Well, I can volunteer my humble services if needed. I used to do some art both traditional medium and cgi for commission, so I'm not too terrible...

But I'd need some model photos to base off of ..wouldn't want to draw a specific dog, per se,..

And then I'd wonder if there should be two pictures, as the male and female look quite different to me, too..

Thoughts?

10-03-2011, 03:38	#1
yukidomari Moderator Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Los Angeles CA Posts: 847	What is this? This: http://www.ukcdogs.com/WebSite.nsf/8...ElemFormat=gif is the current graphic used by the UKC to illustrate an ideal CsV. It accompanies the standards. Even back in 2007 when I first started reading about CsV and the standards, I thought that the picture made the dog look very drab, and indeed, plain and even ugly. In fact I don't think it looks much like a CsV at all, much less an 'ideal' one. What does everyone else think? Is it a good representative picture?

10-03-2011, 03:52	#2
draggar Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 370	It looks cartoonish to me. __________________ Fred Lanting's Official Site Dog Actors

10-03-2011, 11:52	#5
Rona Distinguished Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Kraków Posts: 3,509	To me it seems a drawing of an early GSD. Margo put some similar ones in this thread (2nd post):http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showthread.php?t=14750 __________________

10-03-2011, 12:31	#6
draggar Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 370	I'm looking at a bunch of their picture and none of them look really good. I noticed the Belgian shepherd doesn't have one - maybe the UBSDA had them remove it (or that there are 4 varieties of the BSD?)? I think the issue is that these are like sketches, which never look like a good representation. Does anyone have a sketch of a CSV that looks good? When the club is finalized with UKC - maybe this is something (well, one of the many things) we can work on. __________________ Fred Lanting's Official Site Dog Actors

10-03-2011, 12:59	#7
GalomyOak Howling Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 436	LOL! Agreed! I always wondered if the judges were thinking of this image when they judged my dogs. __________________ "What lies behind us and what lies ahead of us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us."~Henry David Thoreau http://www.galomyoak.com

10-03-2011, 09:35	#4
Hanka Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Kadaň Posts: 1,622	Very bad picture.

10-03-2011, 19:38	#8
Mikael Scandinavian Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Stockholm Posts: 1,089	Is this some kind of joke Best regards / Mikael __________________ _________________________________________________ Hronec, Rasty, Zilja Kennel, Wolfdog of Sweden* http://kennelwolfdogofsweden.vpsite.se/Home.html http://www.facebook.com/pages/Wolfdo...53067971392916

11-03-2011, 23:49	#9
tupacs2legs rookie Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: london Posts: 320	looks like an Australian kelpie to me

12-03-2011, 12:33	#10
Silvester Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 369	yeah...but even for a Kelpie it´s more a kind of caricature or bad joke !

18-03-2011, 05:06	#11
yukidomari Moderator Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Los Angeles CA Posts: 847	Thanks for all the responses. Well, I can volunteer my humble services if needed. I used to do some art both traditional medium and cgi for commission, so I'm not too terrible... But I'd need some model photos to base off of ..wouldn't want to draw a specific dog, per se,.. And then I'd wonder if there should be two pictures, as the male and female look quite different to me, too.. Thoughts?