Hungarian kennel club defunct?

GalomyOak · 01-05-2012, 21:49

Today I received this message from the Puli club in the US, but I think it affects all dogs bred in Hungary after 15 May. Has anyone heard about it?

The Hungarian Kennel Club will be made
dysfunctional on May 15th by the Hungarian
government. Here is a brief synopsis:

István Siklósi
Lots of people abroad are asking us what has
happened in Hungary. I try to sum it up briefly:
13 years ago, a group of people left MEOE, and
started lobbying at the Agricultural Ministry.
They succeeded: dog breeding was drawn under
state direction, ”state approval” became
compulsory, and dogs were declared as farm
animals. That time, the ministry declared that
group of people as ”state approved”. Since that
time, we live in a parallel way: MEOE keeps the
stud books and organizes shows as part of the FCI
system, and the ”state approved” group has not
really done anything, but trying to get the FCI
rights from MEOE. They register only 2 breeds as
a ”state approved” organisation, it is not an FCI
registry, and they organize shows, which are not FCI shows.
In the meantime, the Constitutional Court decided
that dogs can not be considered as farm animals,
and that MEOE is a civil organisation, and as
such can not be governed by the state.
Now, the infringement law and its part about
breeding aminals has been modified. It says that
only ”state approved” organisations are allowed
to register and organize dog shows in Hungary. In
fact, MEOE can not do anyhting, otherwise it, its
board, and even its judges have to pay a penalty
of a very high amount. So, MEOE has not been
terminated directly, but it has benn made
dysfunctional. This modification will come into
effect on 15. May. Negotiations are going on,
MEOE will publish an official statement soon.
We are asking dog enthusiasts and kennel clubs
abroad to help and protest against this process
with the Minister, Dr. Sándor Fazekas at the
Hungarian Agricultural Ministry. Seeing the
international cooperation may make them
reconsider the effects of their decision.
http://www.kormany.hu/hu/videkfejlesztesi-miniszterium
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press office: [email protected]
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yukidomari · 01-05-2012, 23:21

I hope the FCI is or will be made aware of this. They have, in the past, stopped recognizing various national Kennel Clubs, for example the Kennel Club of Bosnia and Herzegovina, and currently Kazahkstan (http://fci.be/circulaires/89-2010.pdf).

jefta · 02-05-2012, 15:06

I have read about it on belgian shepherd forum

They will organize World Dog Show in 2013!

GalomyOak · 02-05-2012, 15:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by jefta

They will organize World Dog Show in 2013!

That is a huge problem! There is a petition on change.org, don't know if it will have any effect...but maybe in the end this will bring something better, more organized for Hungary, since it seems there are some problems with the registry

jefta · 03-05-2012, 15:46

petition:
http://www.change.org/petitions/meoe...e_button_modal

they also organize World Championship in IPO in September 2012

http://fci2012.hu/ang/index.php

Better? We have in Europe many small kennel clubs. But all of them are much worst than this big, old recognized by FCI

They all are created by puppy millers discarded from recognized Kennel Clubs

they have even own union-F.C.I. (not FCI

)
http://www.webfci.org/

Norky · 03-05-2012, 15:51

Considering the current situation that our member in Hungary, MEOE, is facing, the FCI members and the FCI General Committee wish to reiterate their full support to our very long-standing member that has been sharing our wonderful existence since 1933. Talks and negotiations will take place with the Hungarian political authorities to envisage the future but we want to insist to the world dog community that MEOE can count with our unconditioned support and friendship.
H.W. Müller
FCI President

01-05-2012, 21:49	#1
GalomyOak Howling Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 436	Hungarian kennel club defunct? Today I received this message from the Puli club in the US, but I think it affects all dogs bred in Hungary after 15 May. Has anyone heard about it? The Hungarian Kennel Club will be made dysfunctional on May 15th by the Hungarian government. Here is a brief synopsis: István Siklósi Lots of people abroad are asking us what has happened in Hungary. I try to sum it up briefly: 13 years ago, a group of people left MEOE, and started lobbying at the Agricultural Ministry. They succeeded: dog breeding was drawn under state direction, ”state approval” became compulsory, and dogs were declared as farm animals. That time, the ministry declared that group of people as ”state approved”. Since that time, we live in a parallel way: MEOE keeps the stud books and organizes shows as part of the FCI system, and the ”state approved” group has not really done anything, but trying to get the FCI rights from MEOE. They register only 2 breeds as a ”state approved” organisation, it is not an FCI registry, and they organize shows, which are not FCI shows. In the meantime, the Constitutional Court decided that dogs can not be considered as farm animals, and that MEOE is a civil organisation, and as such can not be governed by the state. Now, the infringement law and its part about breeding aminals has been modified. It says that only ”state approved” organisations are allowed to register and organize dog shows in Hungary. In fact, MEOE can not do anyhting, otherwise it, its board, and even its judges have to pay a penalty of a very high amount. So, MEOE has not been terminated directly, but it has benn made dysfunctional. This modification will come into effect on 15. May. Negotiations are going on, MEOE will publish an official statement soon. We are asking dog enthusiasts and kennel clubs abroad to help and protest against this process with the Minister, Dr. Sándor Fazekas at the Hungarian Agricultural Ministry. Seeing the international cooperation may make them reconsider the effects of their decision. http://www.kormany.hu/hu/videkfejlesztesi-miniszterium e-mail address: [email protected] press office: [email protected] Thank you! Kormányzat - Vidékfejlesztési Minisztérium www.kormany.hu A Vidékfejlesztési Minisztérium vidékfejlesztéssel, élelmiszerlánc-felügyelettel, környezetvédelemmel, agrárgazdasággal kapcsolatos ügyekért felelos. A minisztérium fo célkituzése a fenntartható természeti eroforrás-gazdálkodás, a többfunkciós mezogazdálkodás, a vidékfejlesztés, valamint a biztonság... http://www.kormany.hu/hu/videkfejlesztesi-miniszterium www.kormany.hu __________________ "What lies behind us and what lies ahead of us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us."~Henry David Thoreau http://www.galomyoak.com

01-05-2012, 23:21	#2
yukidomari Moderator Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Los Angeles CA Posts: 847	I hope the FCI is or will be made aware of this. They have, in the past, stopped recognizing various national Kennel Clubs, for example the Kennel Club of Bosnia and Herzegovina, and currently Kazahkstan (http://fci.be/circulaires/89-2010.pdf). __________________ "Learn to do well; seek judgment." www.greyfarer.com/

02-05-2012, 15:06	#3
jefta Call Me Sexy Srdcervac Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Wroclaw Posts: 1,233	I have read about it on belgian shepherd forum They will organize World Dog Show in 2013! __________________

03-05-2012, 15:46	#5
jefta Call Me Sexy Srdcervac Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Wroclaw Posts: 1,233	petition: http://www.change.org/petitions/meoe...e_button_modal they also organize World Championship in IPO in September 2012 http://fci2012.hu/ang/index.php Better? We have in Europe many small kennel clubs. But all of them are much worst than this big, old recognized by FCI They all are created by puppy millers discarded from recognized Kennel Clubs they have even own union-F.C.I. (not FCI ) http://www.webfci.org/ __________________

03-05-2012, 15:51	#6
Norky Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Kecskemét,Külsőnyír 155/a Posts: 44	Letter Considering the current situation that our member in Hungary, MEOE, is facing, the FCI members and the FCI General Committee wish to reiterate their full support to our very long-standing member that has been sharing our wonderful existence since 1933. Talks and negotiations will take place with the Hungarian political authorities to envisage the future but we want to insist to the world dog community that MEOE can count with our unconditioned support and friendship. H.W. Müller FCI President