hd/ed evaluation in your country

Morian · 31-10-2011, 21:59

hello people, i'd like to know what is the minimum age for official hd/ed evaluation in your countries? at us it was 15 months, but seems now we have no limit anymore... so we're curious how it works in europe, especially in slovakia and czech republic.

GalomyOak · 31-10-2011, 22:12

In the US, for the comparable "official" exam (OFFA), it is 24 months. The science is based on this information:
http://www.offa.org/hd_prelims.html

Our PennHip exam is reliable from 4 months of age, but it is a totally different method.

I personally had one CSV male who tested normal for HD at 17 months, but was later diagnosed at 27 months with C hips.

Wonderfull Wolf ES · 31-10-2011, 22:40

In Poland its still 15 months for HD/ED

Rona · 31-10-2011, 22:41

It's minimum 15 months in Poland, but we waited to nearly 18 months to have a more reliable result.

Morian · 31-10-2011, 22:52

very interesting. we have hd/ed official certificate with fci logo (also signed as international), so i guess requirements must be unified for all fci members/fci recognized organizations... or not?

Rona · 31-10-2011, 23:11

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Originally Posted by Morian

very interesting. we have hd/ed official certificate with fci logo (also signed as international), so i guess requirements must be unified for all fci members/fci recognized organizations... or not?

In Poland the National Kennel Club (acting under FCI auspices) indicated a few vets in the whole country, who have the right to act on behalf of them.

This means that even if the dog is X-rayed by another (local) vet, the X-ray pictures and the dog's pedigree are forwarded to one of the appointed vets, who assesses the HD/ED results, and stamps and signes the pedigree.

Morian · 31-10-2011, 23:13

aha, thanks (at us you can make x-rays everywhere, but only rkf gives official evaluation, you must send your x-rays to them). but i still meant age.

simo · 31-10-2011, 23:12

In Italy the minum age is 12 months for official certificate with Fci logo.

Morian · 31-10-2011, 23:15

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Originally Posted by simo

In Italy the minum age is 12 months for official certificate with Fci logo.

this is most interesting. if in poland and in italy you get the same certificates, why are these requirements are not the same too?

simo · 31-10-2011, 23:23

There are two central reading for the official X-rays, each of them has a list of accredited veterinarians to either spread throughout the Italian territory. You are forced to choose one of these vets, which makes the X-ray and sends it to the official reading station to which he is affiliated. Is sent to the plate and the original pedigree, the central reading certifies the pedigree and sends him back home with the dog owner's written response to the international certificate (fci) and the analysis of radiographic. The same central comunicates to Enci the response of the plates so as to update the pedigree of the descendants of that subject examined. Also the dog is tattooed in one ear, or registered with the code of his x-ray to its microchip number.

yukidomari · 01-11-2011, 00:26

You can do a hip score at 4 months in OFFA in the USA, but until 24 months the results are considered only "preliminary".

PennHip advises optimally that owners repeat screenings to monitor trends and that screenings at 2 years old are still marginally better than those done at 4 months old.

Mikael · 01-11-2011, 00:58

In Sweden the limit is 12 month, but for large breed dogs 18-24 month is recomended for female / male dogs

Best regards / Mikael

Czertice · 01-11-2011, 08:40

In Czech Republic the limit is 15 months. There are nine veterinarians -accredited by the Club- that make the x-rays and set the score.

BeatriceSlavinschi · 02-11-2011, 15:58

Hello,

In Romania is 12 months minimum; large breeds between 15-18 months.

monita · 06-11-2011, 20:01

In Hungary, the accepted border is 24 months at big-bodied dogs. Filtering under that is rejected. Under 24 months, they only count as pre-filterings. It is not official, but people exploit it.

31-10-2011, 21:59	#1
Morian Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: USSR Posts: 2,047	hd/ed evaluation in your country hello people, i'd like to know what is the minimum age for official hd/ed evaluation in your countries? at us it was 15 months, but seems now we have no limit anymore... so we're curious how it works in europe, especially in slovakia and czech republic. __________________

31-10-2011, 22:12	#2
GalomyOak Howling Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 436	In the US, for the comparable "official" exam (OFFA), it is 24 months. The science is based on this information: http://www.offa.org/hd_prelims.html Our PennHip exam is reliable from 4 months of age, but it is a totally different method. I personally had one CSV male who tested normal for HD at 17 months, but was later diagnosed at 27 months with C hips. __________________ "What lies behind us and what lies ahead of us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us."~Henry David Thoreau http://www.galomyoak.com

31-10-2011, 22:41	#4
Rona Distinguished Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Kraków Posts: 3,509	It's minimum 15 months in Poland, but we waited to nearly 18 months to have a more reliable result. __________________

31-10-2011, 22:52	#5
Morian Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: USSR Posts: 2,047	very interesting. we have hd/ed official certificate with fci logo (also signed as international), so i guess requirements must be unified for all fci members/fci recognized organizations... or not? __________________

31-10-2011, 23:13	#7
Morian Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: USSR Posts: 2,047	aha, thanks (at us you can make x-rays everywhere, but only rkf gives official evaluation, you must send your x-rays to them). but i still meant age. __________________

31-10-2011, 22:40	#3
Wonderfull Wolf ES Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Warszawa Posts: 1,337	In Poland its still 15 months for HD/ED

31-10-2011, 23:12	#8
simo OLIM PALUS KENNEL Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Latina Posts: 1,167	re In Italy the minum age is 12 months for official certificate with Fci logo. __________________ Simona... & Olim Palus Kennel www.olimpalus.net

31-10-2011, 23:23	#10
simo OLIM PALUS KENNEL Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Latina Posts: 1,167	re There are two central reading for the official X-rays, each of them has a list of accredited veterinarians to either spread throughout the Italian territory. You are forced to choose one of these vets, which makes the X-ray and sends it to the official reading station to which he is affiliated. Is sent to the plate and the original pedigree, the central reading certifies the pedigree and sends him back home with the dog owner's written response to the international certificate (fci) and the analysis of radiographic. The same central comunicates to Enci the response of the plates so as to update the pedigree of the descendants of that subject examined. Also the dog is tattooed in one ear, or registered with the code of his x-ray to its microchip number. __________________ Simona... & Olim Palus Kennel www.olimpalus.net

01-11-2011, 00:26	#11
yukidomari Moderator Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Los Angeles CA Posts: 847	You can do a hip score at 4 months in OFFA in the USA, but until 24 months the results are considered only "preliminary". PennHip advises optimally that owners repeat screenings to monitor trends and that screenings at 2 years old are still marginally better than those done at 4 months old. Last edited by yukidomari; 01-11-2011 at 00:42.

01-11-2011, 00:58	#12
Mikael Scandinavian Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Stockholm Posts: 1,089	In Sweden the limit is 12 month, but for large breed dogs 18-24 month is recomended for female / male dogs Best regards / Mikael __________________ _________________________________________________ Hronec, Rasty, Zilja Kennel, Wolfdog of Sweden* http://kennelwolfdogofsweden.vpsite.se/Home.html http://www.facebook.com/pages/Wolfdo...53067971392916

01-11-2011, 08:40	#13
Czertice Rakša Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Praha Posts: 292	In Czech Republic the limit is 15 months. There are nine veterinarians -accredited by the Club- that make the x-rays and set the score. __________________

02-11-2011, 15:58	#14
BeatriceSlavinschi Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 29	Hello, In Romania is 12 months minimum; large breeds between 15-18 months.

06-11-2011, 20:01	#15
monita Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: 3121 Somoskőújfalu Somosi út 161. Posts: 37	In Hungary, the accepted border is 24 months at big-bodied dogs. Filtering under that is rejected. Under 24 months, they only count as pre-filterings. It is not official, but people exploit it.