Furminator?

Shadowlands · 27-04-2011, 11:23

Hi all,

Shadow is having the moult to end all moults this year - no matter how much I brush her, it's still coming out and she's getting a bit bored with it all. I have been seeing stuff about the furminator, but there is a lot of contradictory information/reviews.

Does anyone have experience of using this on a CsV? Is it good for their coats? Does it leave bald bits like I have read in some reviews?

Any experience/advice gratefully received

tupacs2legs · 27-04-2011, 11:40

i do not like them at all

they 'rip' the fur out and imo are not good for the sort of coat a csv has.

i just use a 'pin brush' which will not damage the coat.

i find a good swim loosens the fur and when he is dry then i brush him.

GalomyOak · 27-04-2011, 11:53

I love my Furminator, I use it on all of my CSVs and GSD, no bald spots!

I only use it when the dog is shedding though, and the fur is coming out in little clumps, and only on dry fur - I imagine other tools work just as well, but I like the fact that I don't have to clean the furminator as I go, when the shedding fur seems never ending - the fur just falls away. I never use it in other times of the year. My only complaint is that it builds static electricity and gives little zaps that the dogs don't like (like brushing human hair in the winter). As I understood, it is blade like you find on clippers for shaving hair - but I have never found it to "cut" hair in the way I use it.

Tassle · 27-04-2011, 17:23

I do not like the way furminators work (from a grooming POV) they are quite good on dogs that need to be stripped for getting the worst off, but not great for the undercoat IMO.

I use a Rake

Which has spinning teeth and a bit of give - it is fantastic about getting the under fur out.

Shadowlands · 27-04-2011, 17:58

Tassle,

what make is that? Can I get it online?

Thanks

yukidomari · 27-04-2011, 18:24

I have one and I use it on my Alaskan Klee Kai with good results. She has a plush undercoat and a typical 'open' coat, so it works well.

It doesn't work as well with my CsV though. I haven't tried to brush him with it much, just ran it over him cause he seemed curious what I was doing with my AKK. Could be that he's still in a short puppy coat though. He just doesn't seem to have the type of plush undercoat the Furminator works well with.

Have to wait until a winter coat to see for sure!

Silvester · 27-04-2011, 18:29

Hi and Hello to everybody here first of all ! -

I watched the little discussion here and I want to ask a simple question to you :

Is it really needed to brush a Csv ??
Who is brushing wild canides outside in the forest ?

I remember some years ago we had a simular thread on German wolfdog forum, it was about may be cutting hair of Csv in summer during the hottest time of the year...

At last most people agreed to the opininon, that of course it is not needed or senseful - because our breed is not a poodle or bobtail and still has his natural coat, which is very good adapted to all seasons of the year and all temperatures by changing the structure and density of hair without any need of manipulation by human hands.

I keep my dog 99 percent of time outside, not inside my house, even in cold winter time and he changes his winter to summer fur-coat very easily and without any "help" in some two or three weeks in spring time.

If you have the dog most or all time inside house it might be a little different, but I think even then it´s not needed to do great work on hair and coat, some brushing with normal brush for dogs is just enough.

Best greetings , Silvester from Germany

tupacs2legs · 27-04-2011, 19:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadowlands

Tassle,

what make is that? Can I get it online?

Thanks

there are many makes of 'rakes' all easily bought online or from pet shops cheaply

Tassle · 27-04-2011, 21:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadowlands

Tassle,

what make is that? Can I get it online?

Thanks

This one is a Mikki one - I would try and get one that has the give (I do not like the rigid ones)

yukidomari · 28-04-2011, 19:10

Course no need to do so.. otherwise I wouldn't have gotten a CsV..

I don't think I can have dogs that need constant hair care, like Pulik, Komodorok, or even small dogs like Havanese.

But I greatly admire all who can..

Silvester · 28-04-2011, 20:37

Originally posted by yukidomari:
(Of)Course no need to do so.. otherwise I wouldn't have gotten a CsV..

I don't think I can have dogs that need constant hair care, like Pulik, Komodorok, or even small dogs like Havanese.

Yeah Yuki - that`s exactly my opinion too !!

But in opposite to you I do not admire people who can have dogs that need constant hair care .....!

And I also have no compassion with them....

Shadowlands · 02-05-2011, 11:42

Thanks everyone for your experiences/ advice/ recommendations etc. I got hold of a rake like Tassle mentioned and it is working a treat

- Shadow loves it and turns herself around to get the 'favourite' bits combed

. I decided against the furminator since she was past the 'coming out in clumps' stage that many of you said you used it for, plus I couldn't source one locally.

Thanks again (and a big howl of thanks from Shadow) x

Tassle · 02-05-2011, 22:29

Glad you got one......you need to do before and after pictures now, compete with removed hair!!

Shadowlands · 03-05-2011, 11:29

That would have been a good idea, but it's a bit late now...

Got almost a bag of hair off her over the last 3 days (one of the bags you put veggies in in the supermarket) - she is much happier

27-04-2011, 11:23	#1
Shadowlands Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Vidin Posts: 391	Furminator? Hi all, Shadow is having the moult to end all moults this year - no matter how much I brush her, it's still coming out and she's getting a bit bored with it all. I have been seeing stuff about the furminator, but there is a lot of contradictory information/reviews. Does anyone have experience of using this on a CsV? Is it good for their coats? Does it leave bald bits like I have read in some reviews? Any experience/advice gratefully received

27-04-2011, 11:53	#3
GalomyOak Howling Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 436	I love my Furminator, I use it on all of my CSVs and GSD, no bald spots! I only use it when the dog is shedding though, and the fur is coming out in little clumps, and only on dry fur - I imagine other tools work just as well, but I like the fact that I don't have to clean the furminator as I go, when the shedding fur seems never ending - the fur just falls away. I never use it in other times of the year. My only complaint is that it builds static electricity and gives little zaps that the dogs don't like (like brushing human hair in the winter). As I understood, it is blade like you find on clippers for shaving hair - but I have never found it to "cut" hair in the way I use it. __________________ "What lies behind us and what lies ahead of us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us."~Henry David Thoreau http://www.galomyoak.com

27-04-2011, 18:29	#7
Silvester Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 369	Why is it needed to brush a Csv? Hi and Hello to everybody here first of all ! - I watched the little discussion here and I want to ask a simple question to you : Is it really needed to brush a Csv ?? Who is brushing wild canides outside in the forest ? I remember some years ago we had a simular thread on German wolfdog forum, it was about may be cutting hair of Csv in summer during the hottest time of the year... At last most people agreed to the opininon, that of course it is not needed or senseful - because our breed is not a poodle or bobtail and still has his natural coat, which is very good adapted to all seasons of the year and all temperatures by changing the structure and density of hair without any need of manipulation by human hands. I keep my dog 99 percent of time outside, not inside my house, even in cold winter time and he changes his winter to summer fur-coat very easily and without any "help" in some two or three weeks in spring time. If you have the dog most or all time inside house it might be a little different, but I think even then it´s not needed to do great work on hair and coat, some brushing with normal brush for dogs is just enough. Best greetings , Silvester from Germany

27-04-2011, 11:40	#2
tupacs2legs rookie Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: london Posts: 320	i do not like them at all they 'rip' the fur out and imo are not good for the sort of coat a csv has. i just use a 'pin brush' which will not damage the coat. i find a good swim loosens the fur and when he is dry then i brush him.

27-04-2011, 17:23	#4
Tassle Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Cornwall Posts: 137	I do not like the way furminators work (from a grooming POV) they are quite good on dogs that need to be stripped for getting the worst off, but not great for the undercoat IMO. I use a Rake Which has spinning teeth and a bit of give - it is fantastic about getting the under fur out.

27-04-2011, 17:58	#5
Shadowlands Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Vidin Posts: 391	Tassle, what make is that? Can I get it online? Thanks

27-04-2011, 18:24	#6
yukidomari Moderator Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Los Angeles CA Posts: 847	I have one and I use it on my Alaskan Klee Kai with good results. She has a plush undercoat and a typical 'open' coat, so it works well. It doesn't work as well with my CsV though. I haven't tried to brush him with it much, just ran it over him cause he seemed curious what I was doing with my AKK. Could be that he's still in a short puppy coat though. He just doesn't seem to have the type of plush undercoat the Furminator works well with. Have to wait until a winter coat to see for sure!

28-04-2011, 19:10	#10
yukidomari Moderator Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Los Angeles CA Posts: 847	Course no need to do so.. otherwise I wouldn't have gotten a CsV.. I don't think I can have dogs that need constant hair care, like Pulik, Komodorok, or even small dogs like Havanese. But I greatly admire all who can..

28-04-2011, 20:37	#11
Silvester Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 369	Originally posted by yukidomari: (Of)Course no need to do so.. otherwise I wouldn't have gotten a CsV.. I don't think I can have dogs that need constant hair care, like Pulik, Komodorok, or even small dogs like Havanese. Yeah Yuki - that`s exactly my opinion too !! But in opposite to you I do not admire people who can have dogs that need constant hair care .....! And I also have no compassion with them....

02-05-2011, 11:42	#12
Shadowlands Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Vidin Posts: 391	Thanks everyone for your experiences/ advice/ recommendations etc. I got hold of a rake like Tassle mentioned and it is working a treat - Shadow loves it and turns herself around to get the 'favourite' bits combed . I decided against the furminator since she was past the 'coming out in clumps' stage that many of you said you used it for, plus I couldn't source one locally. Thanks again (and a big howl of thanks from Shadow) x

02-05-2011, 22:29	#13
Tassle Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Cornwall Posts: 137	Glad you got one......you need to do before and after pictures now, compete with removed hair!!

03-05-2011, 11:29	#14
Shadowlands Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Vidin Posts: 391	That would have been a good idea, but it's a bit late now... Got almost a bag of hair off her over the last 3 days (one of the bags you put veggies in in the supermarket) - she is much happier