Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs-Australia

parasks · 01-02-2009, 02:37

hi guys, sorry if this question has already been answered but i was wondering if there is any breeders in australia or if there is laws which do not allow this breed?

any help will be much appreciated.
regards parasks.

michaelundinaeichhorn · 01-02-2009, 09:57

No, at the moment there is not. But Sogna Bognarova lives at Australoa now and plans to start over there. It was a very dark day for the wolfdog world when she left but she may be able to help you, she speaks English perfectly.

Ina

Hanka · 01-02-2009, 19:24

Hello,
what i think, in Australia is some long karantene for pups. And it is "end" of wolfdog puppy. It must be always with people. If it will be closed in karantene box longer time, you can say goodbye good socialisation. Every day between people is for small wolfdog very important. What is no problem for small german sheepdog, is problem for small wolfdog

Sona_Bognarova · 02-02-2009, 10:09

Hi everybody,

first of all thanks to Ina for introducing me in such a nice way...

I live in Adelaide, SA and would like to meet people in Australia who are interested in CSW. I would like to import this breed here, starting with my own dog first. I have to admit that I am missing the whole wolfdog community - meaning people and wolfdogs very much!!! I've started communication with ANKC already and dare to be quite positive about the importation. Well, it will take time, efforts and costs of course. I am aware of how important the education of people prior importing CSW to Australia is and would really appreciate reasonable co-operation with people interested in this breed. Actually, I was looking for Simon Larman from Melbourne, who posted here few years ago. Apparently his email address is not valid anymore, don't anybody have his contact details? Should anyone here like to get in touch, don't hesitate to email me: [email protected]

Sonja

Hanka · 02-02-2009, 14:46

Hi Sonja, you are living

. And what is about long karantene? Is it true or no?

Sona_Bognarova · 03-02-2009, 00:20

Yeees, Hanka, I am still alive.....

As for the importation - it is not only about quarantine, you have to gain also a permit to bring the dog here. Duration of the quarantine depends of the period all required vaccinations and tests were done prior the travel. However, the minimum quarantine for any dog is 30 days (and then up to 6 months) and it is linked to vaccinations and tests being done 150 days prior the travel itself. There are only 3 quarantine stations in Australia - in Perth, Melbourne and Sydney. For all interested, more information here: http://www.daffa.gov.au/aqis/cat-dogs
And of course, you pay at every bloody step of the procedure... But I fully agree, even 30 days quarantine is bad for a wolfdog puppy, moreover, there are some other restrictions, I don't remember them all. I truly hope that at least there will be no troubles with an official CSW recognition here, I am quite optimistic in this.

kane · 14-01-2010, 11:58

Hello all, I'm new here, and i have been searching everywhere for weeks re finding a breeder of the Czech Wolf Dog in Australia. I have read this post ; just wondering has much progress been made in regard to wolfdogs in Aus???
Can any1 help me with the most productive path to speak to some one in Aus about this?

kane · 14-01-2010, 12:17

Hello all new here, & yes i am going to ask about the CzWolf dog in Oz and how far along it is? I know there have been other threads but they seem to get rather hijacked by nonsense 'periphery' talk. There are many of us here who have become aware of this delightful 'new' breed, so might i ask if those who are in the know with contacts and events pls keep us informed via this thread? Im in for the long haul, but is there actually any1 that HAS imported them yet? Or any1 that is actually DOING it?
Please keep this thread pure to the question re the CzW in Oz... We are all aware the first of any breed is not easily imported, but if those who did import decided it was to hard.... well we wouldn have any of mans best friend here..

Please dont whine about what i have asked or said ; i just wanna have a CzW and so far this is the only site that has a clue about it happening.A credit to you all, but lets make it easy for those surfin tryin to ascertain the liklyhood of it actually happening, when, how and who...

So please, Discuss.

michaelundinaeichhorn · 14-01-2010, 13:11

Sonja Bognarova is going to import and would be the best adress for you to contact, especially as she is one of the best experts on this breed.

Ina

kane · 14-01-2010, 23:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn

Sonja Bognarova is going to import and would be the best adress for you to contact, especially as she is one of the best experts on this breed.

Ina

Thx Ina, Is there a way to contact this lady? Does she have a web site, or dare i ask ; phone number? Do you know which state she is in pls?

hanninadina · 18-10-2010, 11:32

Sonja Boogerova, the best special judge in that breed, originally from Slovakia moved I think 1 or 2 years ago to australia. But I do not know if she took Issy - Issar - with her. Here is the link to her dog. Make a try through her eMail. Send her greetings from me http://www.wolfdog.org/eng/dbase/o190.html

Christian
www.wolfdogs-siouxtala.de

She knows my Myla Crying Wolf

Ligerwolve2 · 18-10-2010, 12:13

I have read that she intended to import so I will send her an email soon as I can get my silly computer to co-operate.

I have worked out that the website I saw is from an actual member here LOL - silly me! So I am going to try contact both. I really love this breed (well from afar) and its been 10 yrs since my plans to import fell through.

It would mean so much to me to be able to meet one of these gorgeous dogs!

michaelundinaeichhorn · 18-10-2010, 22:21

As we will help her with importing I can tell you that Issar is still in Europe. I will ask her to contact you the next time I talk to her.

Regards
Ina

Ligerwolve2 · 18-10-2010, 23:59

That would just be wonderful Ina. Thank you.

enomis52 · 22-10-2010, 06:05

Hi everyone,

Ligerwolve2 I too would love one of these beautiful dogs. I am in the sydney area (not far from you) so if you wouldn't mind, could you pass me on any details you find out? I'm not sure if people would mind being emailed numerous times about the same thing... Right now I am just curious about if or when we will see these guys in Australia (I certainly hope so!)

Cheers

23-12-2011, 01:45

Hi everyone,

It's been a while since there was any talk of Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs in Australia.

I read earlier that Sona Bognarova had moved to Australia and was looking at importing, but I can't see any updates on that. I also noticed Mick Wright's Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs, that are supposed to be mixes, they're still great, but I don't think he's selling any.

I've been considering importing, given I can't find anyone in Australia who appears to have any let alone be breeding. The only problem is, is that as of 2012, dogs have to be atleast 6 months before being imported to Australia. Most breeders don't seem keen on the idea of keeping them for that long.

Anybody have any infomation or updates on what's happening? Or has nothing changed since the last threads made about them in Australia.

-Thanks

yukidomari · 23-12-2011, 02:17

I don't know if the situation in Australia has changed any, but I do know that if you develop a good relationship with a breeder, some certainly aren't averse to working with you on importation requirements, including the rabies titer wait and others.

23-12-2011, 07:03

Yeah, I'll see what happens. If there's none in Australia in 3 years, and I haven't been able to import. Then I'll just live in the county of importation for the duration of the testing and vaccinations that have to take place untill I'm able to ship the Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs to Australia.

Australia seems a bit empty when it comes to wolfdogs and dogs that look like wolves..

Saarloos Wolfhound-None known to be in Australia.
CZECHOSLOVAKIAN WOLFDOG-None pure that I know of.
Tamaskan-None that are up for breeding.
Northern Inuit-None.
British Wolfdog-None.

yukidomari · 23-12-2011, 07:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolves

Australia seems a bit empty when it comes to wolfdogs and dogs that look like wolves..

Saarloos Wolfhound-None known to be in Australia.
CZECHOSLOVAKIAN WOLFDOG-None pure that I know of.
Tamaskan-None that are up for breeding.
Northern Inuit-None.
British Wolfdog-None.

sometimes, that's not a bad thing..

23-12-2011, 07:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by yukidomari

sometimes, that's not a bad thing..

I would hope that in the case of the Czechoslovakian Wolfdog, that owners would be required to have some kind of permit. Many people buy them for their looks, and although they have done research, they don't realise how much of a challenge the dog is untill they buy one.

I recently got a Wildlife Permit, as I intend to own a dingo in the future, it's a free permit. Just I had to build a large enclosure and demonstrate that I know a lot about dingoes in order to recieve it.

I don't think they will put a permit when it comes to owning dogs like the Czechoslovakian Wolfdog in Australia, as they're a domestic dog unlike the dingo. But it really would help, as they're not like a normal dog.

But the first step is actually getting the Czechoslovakian Wolfdog recognised here....

01-02-2009, 02:37	#1
parasks Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1	wolfdogs in australia (im new) hi guys, sorry if this question has already been answered but i was wondering if there is any breeders in australia or if there is laws which do not allow this breed? any help will be much appreciated. regards parasks.

14-01-2010, 11:58	#7
kane Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 5	wolfdog in OZ Hello all, I'm new here, and i have been searching everywhere for weeks re finding a breeder of the Czech Wolf Dog in Australia. I have read this post ; just wondering has much progress been made in regard to wolfdogs in Aus??? Can any1 help me with the most productive path to speak to some one in Aus about this?

14-01-2010, 12:17	#8
kane Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 5	CzW's in Australia Hello all new here, & yes i am going to ask about the CzWolf dog in Oz and how far along it is? I know there have been other threads but they seem to get rather hijacked by nonsense 'periphery' talk. There are many of us here who have become aware of this delightful 'new' breed, so might i ask if those who are in the know with contacts and events pls keep us informed via this thread? Im in for the long haul, but is there actually any1 that HAS imported them yet? Or any1 that is actually DOING it? Please keep this thread pure to the question re the CzW in Oz... We are all aware the first of any breed is not easily imported, but if those who did import decided it was to hard.... well we wouldn have any of mans best friend here.. Please dont whine about what i have asked or said ; i just wanna have a CzW and so far this is the only site that has a clue about it happening.A credit to you all, but lets make it easy for those surfin tryin to ascertain the liklyhood of it actually happening, when, how and who... So please, Discuss.

23-12-2011, 01:45	#16
Wolves Guest Posts: n/a	Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs-Australia Hi everyone, It's been a while since there was any talk of Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs in Australia. I read earlier that Sona Bognarova had moved to Australia and was looking at importing, but I can't see any updates on that. I also noticed Mick Wright's Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs, that are supposed to be mixes, they're still great, but I don't think he's selling any. I've been considering importing, given I can't find anyone in Australia who appears to have any let alone be breeding. The only problem is, is that as of 2012, dogs have to be atleast 6 months before being imported to Australia. Most breeders don't seem keen on the idea of keeping them for that long. Anybody have any infomation or updates on what's happening? Or has nothing changed since the last threads made about them in Australia. -Thanks

01-02-2009, 09:57	#2
michaelundinaeichhorn Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bad Dürkheim Posts: 2,249	No, at the moment there is not. But Sogna Bognarova lives at Australoa now and plans to start over there. It was a very dark day for the wolfdog world when she left but she may be able to help you, she speaks English perfectly. Ina

01-02-2009, 19:24	#3
Hanka Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Kadaň Posts: 1,622	Hello, what i think, in Australia is some long karantene for pups. And it is "end" of wolfdog puppy. It must be always with people. If it will be closed in karantene box longer time, you can say goodbye good socialisation. Every day between people is for small wolfdog very important. What is no problem for small german sheepdog, is problem for small wolfdog

02-02-2009, 10:09	#4
Sona_Bognarova Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Adelaide Posts: 26	Hi everybody, first of all thanks to Ina for introducing me in such a nice way... I live in Adelaide, SA and would like to meet people in Australia who are interested in CSW. I would like to import this breed here, starting with my own dog first. I have to admit that I am missing the whole wolfdog community - meaning people and wolfdogs very much!!! I've started communication with ANKC already and dare to be quite positive about the importation. Well, it will take time, efforts and costs of course. I am aware of how important the education of people prior importing CSW to Australia is and would really appreciate reasonable co-operation with people interested in this breed. Actually, I was looking for Simon Larman from Melbourne, who posted here few years ago. Apparently his email address is not valid anymore, don't anybody have his contact details? Should anyone here like to get in touch, don't hesitate to email me: [email protected] Sonja

02-02-2009, 14:46	#5
Hanka Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Kadaň Posts: 1,622	Hi Sonja, you are living . And what is about long karantene? Is it true or no?

03-02-2009, 00:20	#6
Sona_Bognarova Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Adelaide Posts: 26	Yeees, Hanka, I am still alive..... As for the importation - it is not only about quarantine, you have to gain also a permit to bring the dog here. Duration of the quarantine depends of the period all required vaccinations and tests were done prior the travel. However, the minimum quarantine for any dog is 30 days (and then up to 6 months) and it is linked to vaccinations and tests being done 150 days prior the travel itself. There are only 3 quarantine stations in Australia - in Perth, Melbourne and Sydney. For all interested, more information here: http://www.daffa.gov.au/aqis/cat-dogs And of course, you pay at every bloody step of the procedure... But I fully agree, even 30 days quarantine is bad for a wolfdog puppy, moreover, there are some other restrictions, I don't remember them all. I truly hope that at least there will be no troubles with an official CSW recognition here, I am quite optimistic in this.

14-01-2010, 13:11	#9
michaelundinaeichhorn Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bad Dürkheim Posts: 2,249	Sonja Bognarova is going to import and would be the best adress for you to contact, especially as she is one of the best experts on this breed. Ina

18-10-2010, 11:32	#11
hanninadina Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,466	Sonja Boogerova, the best special judge in that breed, originally from Slovakia moved I think 1 or 2 years ago to australia. But I do not know if she took Issy - Issar - with her. Here is the link to her dog. Make a try through her eMail. Send her greetings from me http://www.wolfdog.org/eng/dbase/o190.html Christian www.wolfdogs-siouxtala.de She knows my Myla Crying Wolf

18-10-2010, 12:13	#12
Ligerwolve2 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 57	I have read that she intended to import so I will send her an email soon as I can get my silly computer to co-operate. I have worked out that the website I saw is from an actual member here LOL - silly me! So I am going to try contact both. I really love this breed (well from afar) and its been 10 yrs since my plans to import fell through. It would mean so much to me to be able to meet one of these gorgeous dogs!

18-10-2010, 22:21	#13
michaelundinaeichhorn Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bad Dürkheim Posts: 2,249	As we will help her with importing I can tell you that Issar is still in Europe. I will ask her to contact you the next time I talk to her. Regards Ina

18-10-2010, 23:59	#14
Ligerwolve2 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 57	That would just be wonderful Ina. Thank you.

22-10-2010, 06:05	#15
enomis52 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Central Tabelands, New South Wales Posts: 11	Hi everyone, Ligerwolve2 I too would love one of these beautiful dogs. I am in the sydney area (not far from you) so if you wouldn't mind, could you pass me on any details you find out? I'm not sure if people would mind being emailed numerous times about the same thing... Right now I am just curious about if or when we will see these guys in Australia (I certainly hope so!) Cheers

23-12-2011, 02:17	#17
yukidomari Moderator Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Los Angeles CA Posts: 847	I don't know if the situation in Australia has changed any, but I do know that if you develop a good relationship with a breeder, some certainly aren't averse to working with you on importation requirements, including the rabies titer wait and others.

23-12-2011, 07:03	#18
Wolves Guest Posts: n/a	Yeah, I'll see what happens. If there's none in Australia in 3 years, and I haven't been able to import. Then I'll just live in the county of importation for the duration of the testing and vaccinations that have to take place untill I'm able to ship the Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs to Australia. Australia seems a bit empty when it comes to wolfdogs and dogs that look like wolves.. Saarloos Wolfhound-None known to be in Australia. CZECHOSLOVAKIAN WOLFDOG-None pure that I know of. Tamaskan-None that are up for breeding. Northern Inuit-None. British Wolfdog-None.