DM Testresults

[mijke]

Last week I did receive the DM test results of Paco and Atlasz and both owners did give permission to publish the results.
Also these 2 males are Carriers.

So on this moment these official DM test results are known:

• Justine Stella Atoi de Louba Tar - Affected
• Male X - Affected (the owner does not want to publish the name of the dog yet)
• Male X - Carrier (the owner does not want to publish the name of the dog yet)
• Hogan Sky van Hagia Sophia - Carrier
• Chunami from Bandit's World - Carrier
• Phylax Paco van de Ursidae-Stee - Carrier
• Atlasz Cannus Lupus - Carrier

Also several other CsW's were tested, and the owners wait for the results.

This list with test results is not any reason for "panic"!
But it is clear that DM exists in CsW breed in several lines and countries.

That is why it is useful to test more CsW's for DM!
And again: not any dog needs to be excluded for breeding!

On lecture last weekend about DM of Dr. Paul Mandigers (neurologic specialist) was also mentioned that it would be a disaster for a breed when DM carriers would be excluded for breeding.

[Mikael]

Thanks again for all you hard work Mijke

Thanks to you many dogs will not have to suffer !

Best regards / Mikael

[yukidomari]

Good post. Thanks for sharing - it's good to know that there are breeders who care about testing for and limiting DM in CSVs.. as the breed is still in its early years, I do believe good control can provide a healthier future before DM becomes too wide spread or causes more dogs to suffer.

[draggar]

Yep. I hope the two active dogs are not used in breeding unless they are phenominal in every other aspect - and then only breed to a truly normal / normal dog.

Carriers can be bred - just breed them to N/N dogs and the puppies will, at worst, be carriers. The breed is small enough that with some monitoring of this we might be able to eliminate DM from the breed (yes, it will take a while).

[Akela]

Hello,
can someone explain me what clearly is DM?
It is a short "word" for what genetic disease exactly?
Thank you very much.

[draggar]

A few links on it:

http://www.fredlanting.org/2010/02/t...athy%e2%80%9d/

http://neuro.vetmed.ufl.edu/neuro/DM_Web/DMofGS.htm

OFA test:
https://secure.offa.org/cart.html

[yukidomari]

Originally Posted by Akela

Hello,
can someone explain me what clearly is DM?
It is a short "word" for what genetic disease exactly?
Thank you very much.

It's short for Degenerative Myelopathy.

[massimo]

Hi
congratulations for yor litter.
Could I kindly ask you if you have done the DMA tests on your dogs before mating them?

Thank you for your reply!
massimo

[wolfin]

Originally Posted by massimo

Hi
congratulations for yor litter.
Could I kindly ask you if you have done the DMA tests on your dogs before mating them?

Thank you for your reply!
massimo

Your dogs too not see in DM testing list

[massimo]

Originally Posted by wolfin

Your dogs too not see in DM testing list

Since when this is a reply?
Jasna has done test and is waiting for reply.
Oliver is 8 years old and will not reproduce anymore.
Echo is tested and is N/N, so any female he covers will give HEALTHY
puppies and MAXIMUM carriers (depending on mother)
Lunatica is castrated since 1 years old because she is HD/D.
As you can see, my ONLY dog who is reproducing at the moment is tsted and N/N negative.

Mine is a simple question, and knowing Kay's sister (K-lee, who has made puppies with Echo) is a carrier, I am making a very straightforward question.
I have a friend interested in this litter and maybe others too may be interested in this simple question.
Is that wrong?


Now, considering my reply to you was full and complete, in the joyful xmas spirit should I also ask if Jolly or Iran or Harmonia have been tested?

[wolfin]

Originally Posted by massimo

Oliver is 8 years old and will not reproduce anymore.

but this female Joly and Harmonia TOO NOT go TO Production like you Oliver

I have a friend interested in this litter and maybe others too may be interested in this simple question.
Is that wrong?

I think she have good owner in spain and not mas have owner in others country. And all time can about all who interesing You quest in email way. Or not.

[massimo]

Originally Posted by wolfin

but this female Joly and Harmonia TOO NOT go TO Production like you Oliver ..

Exactly, that is why I said "should I ask it too?" considering you asked about my dogs. However the heritage of these dogs is much much wider than that of oliver...

Originally Posted by wolfin

I think she have good owner in spain and not mas have owner in others country. And all time can about all who interesing You quest in email way. Or not.

I think we are all nice to say congratulations to the best litter in spain but maybe they should have a bit more information about health issues too.
or is this not good when we speak about certain dogs or lines and good only when we speak about others?
what is there to be afraid of? nothing I guess!
nothing to hide if we speak about the best litter in spain!

Klee is carrier, so, there are chances that Kay could be too, and I am curious to know about Enor.
All is important, bloodline, Hd, Good blood, bonitation, Elbows and now we know also DMA is important.

I think it is time to be more objective when speaking about litters and not always attacking the usual breeders becuase we don't like them.

New owners should be aware of what they are paying for.
This applies to others and also to myself, if a breeder is honest, and I am sure Tuky is a very very honest person and has been informed by his breeders about these problems and will do the same.

[Grin]

Originally Posted by massimo

knowing Kay's sister (K-lee, who has made puppies with Echo) is a carrier,

I think you must have misunderstood her (after all both of you didn't use your native languages talking to each other, right? ).
On the 28 November Ewa wrote on Polish forum clearly that K-lee WASN'T testet yet, and because of it, being a responsible person she had chosen a testet stud dog just to be sure that K-lee's puppies would be healthy. http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showpos...&postcount=107
(I have really no business in this matter, just wanted to put things clear. )
Regards.

[z Peronówki]

Calm down people - you really see "puppy time is comming" (in the case of Massimo it is hard to explain it as PMS.... )