[Mikael]

Originally Posted by massimo

The question is, seriously, WHAT CAN BE DONE??
With Mutaras, the clubs have moved in a way to avoid dogs with unknown pedigrees before a certain date, but when the pedigrees are fake, this is useless.

For all of you who fear, like me, that this could cause serious issues, are you ready to subscribe to a worldwide action?
I was thinking of asking all clubs to request FCI to make some investigations, to oblige some breeders to make DNA tests (paternity) by taking blood samples directly.
If these breeders do not agree...they should be prevented from breeding again.
I am speaking IN PARTICULAR about some french breeders who clearly show that they think this is all a game and that honesty and truth is just an option.
Maybe the clubs can select some judges to chose, judging from pics or from shows, some dogs who they believe can be from doubtful origins and request the breeders to perform the tests.
It is just an idea...but believe me, this situation seems to becoming worst and worst every month....will it ever stop if we do nothing about it?

My opinion about experimenting new blood in the breed is NOT the point here, I am mostly concerned about FAKE PEDIGREES.

why should honest breeders work for years and years to obtain small but significant results when others just use a mix or a real wolf, pretend the father is somebody else, mix these again and obtain results which are amazing, I admit, but fake?
Any opinion is welcome.
massimo

Yes, absolutely we must act and not just talk, I think DNA swop ALL dogs at ALL Bonitations, will be one way...

And (we) must make a DNA map of the CsV breed so that we can se by taking one DNA test on only one dog later on and see directly if it is pure or not... ( a DNA Pure breed test )


Sweden has obligatory DNA test on Saarloos and Vlcak´s before we get any FCI pedigree´s and as I understand it is the same in Belgium, the reason is that on this two breeds there is just to easy to mix whit wolf or GSD and get away whit it...


I have already bean in contact whit the Swedish kennel club and they are interested to get info about a future Pure breed DNA test for the Vlcak breed and as soon as there is one, it will probably be a obligatory test before register a CsV in Sweden + suspected wolf mixes can be tested by the Swedish police and prove the Vlcak pedigree is a fake...


I do what I can from here, but I think nothing will happen world wide before the SL and CZ club demands DNA swop to get a Bonitation code...

What do you think can be done about the situation in Italy ??? Can DNA swop be something that can be standard on a Italian (Bonitation) ???

Best regards / Mikael