I'm not defending or attacting de Louba Tar, I know nothing about the breeder. Ina's comments sound very reasonable.... thanks for bringing some  common sense into the discussion, Ina. 
 
Paul, I'm trying hard to follow your way of reasoning, but could you try to be a little more precise? It would really help us understand your position.
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				 i put this on the forum because the time was right 
			
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 What happend 
to make the time right? French regulations've changed? You managed to get some authorities promise the dogs will not be exterminated? Maybe evidence was compiled? Or something else's happened? Tell us. Otherwise it looks strange - you looked after those skinny dogs every day for 18 months, left the place and now, after a few years, all of the sudden begin an  "action"....and even now it's not clear 
what sort of action
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				  you will be amazed at what has been going on for over 15 yrs in Europe with the czech and saarloos, 
			
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 Well, 
what has been going on? Tell us what you have in mind. I suppose lots of things have been going on - some very positive and some very nasty. We hear occassionaly about both. But what do YOU mean exactly - facts, 
facts please. 
 
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				  when they come out then i am free to be critisized if it is felt nessesary 
			
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  When, where and how will they come out? Is there a case in court? Did you inform the police?  Maybe a TV programme is being made?  
I suppose you have your truth, you reasons and probably evidence. But this is a public place and if you accuse somebody of something it's not enough  to just say "one day you'll find out". You either provide good evidence, or tell exactly where and when one can see the evidence or ....write nothing. Otherwise it raises doubts. Anything can be written on the forum, as you probably know, and it's very hard to depict what is true, and what isn't. 
 What really matters is the condition of the dogs. It would be good to obtain some objective, reliable and recently confirmed  info, not just  old photos.