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Originally Posted by G.D.K's
How is the Ceskoslovensky vlcak in a SCHUTZHUND III ?
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It is hard to answer it because the idea of training with CzWs was dead (or 'asleep') for a very long time. First since few years the people started to train more, to organize the meetings with training and different competitions. So it is getting better and better every year...
But overwhelming number of CzW owners are simply said begginers which make a lot of mistakes while training those dogs. And it will take a while until we will have bigger group of staff that can prove the maximum abilities of this breed...
So far all I can say is that Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs can be trained for SchHIII but I will not call them winners of this sport discipline...
They are good in tracking and also love protection work. But it is very boring for them to be thorough..
That's the reason why you will need much more work with a CzW than with a BSD or GSD...
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Originally Posted by KoosLetydeGraaff
It also not easy to make the CW very obedient because he tryes everything in another way to reach that thing he want to reach.
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That's right. But it apply only to things which CzWs don't like to do... If a dog hates for example obiedience it will try do make everything only not this what the owner is asking for...
That's the reason why Wolfdogs need experienced and (most important) consistent owners. If you are consistent and you have good motivation for the dog he will give everything to satisfied the owner...
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Originally Posted by KoosLetydeGraaff
You have to spare your garden, because they can jump over about 1.80 mtr, without no problem.
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I don't think it is really posible to secure the garden to be 100% sure that the dogs will not get out...
I think it is much easier to teach the dogs not to go out. We have 5 Wolfdogs and all are running free. The fence is 1.7 and all dogs can easy go over but they don't do it. Of course they tried - but every time we learn them it is not allowed. Now the only dogs which is jumping over (but not running away) is 1.5 years old female which is with us just since one month. But even she makes it very sporadically (more rarely last time).
I think there are two main reason why the dogs go away:
- There is not good enough contact with the owner; the owner is not a member of their pack. So the biggest problems are with "second hand" dogs or dogs which were to long by the breeder (we had some such cases in Poland)
- The dogs are bored. If the dogs have nothing to do and they just stay in the garden for the whole time they will look for interesing things outside and walk away. Tired and satisfied dogs will never run away..
But I think it is good to mention about it to the new owners so they can be prepared and work with the dogs in such way that they will not jump over the fence...
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Originally Posted by KoosLetydeGraaff
You can hardly leave them alone in your house of car, while there is sure something damaged
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Right. That's also another problem. We made the same mistake with our first wolfdog - he was never alone and now he can't stay alone even for 5 minuts...
But we learned quickly and worked on it with other dogs. But the owner must begin with training as soon as possible because later it can be imposible to get the dog used to stay alone at home...
So the females we can leave even for 10 hours at home or in the car and nothing will happen... They will sleep until we are back...
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Originally Posted by KoosLetydeGraaff
I know where your dog is coming from (ahum) but it depends of course how you raise your dog, but a lot of dogs have the symtoms I wrote.
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I think it is also huge question about choosing the right puppy. Ela was looking for a dog to train with. When the puppies are young we play with them to see their predispositions and also to develop their interest to aport and playing with people. So it was easy for us to choose a puppy with the best characteritics and luckly Ela had the same opinion about Amber.
About raising the puppy: I think if the future owner knows the possible problems with a CzW; if he knows also advantages and disadvantages of his puppy then he can handle so to prevents the symptoms you've listed...
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Originally Posted by Wolfsirius
Story about CsV in waterbed (written at wolfdog.org) was one of the best, have you read it?
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It is great story. But don't forget Mijke was not the owner of Karlik from the beginning but she get him when he was already older.