CsW's in Greece?
 

Does anyone know if there are living CsW's in Greece?

And if there are, does somebody knows the names of the dogs?

I am the proud owner of a CsW in Greece. I got the puppy 3 months ago, and from my understanding after talking to the Greek Kennel Club is that officialy he is the first to enter the country. His name is Tristan, unfortunately i haven;t foudn the time to register him, but hopefully i will do so in due course.

May i ask why do you want to know this information?

Of course I did know you had a CsW because of the forum topic:)

But I was intereseted if there were more Csw living in Greece. Because every year I travel some time in Greece with the CsW of my own and maybe then I could also visit some others CsW owners;)

Besides in the past I did have contact with several people from Greece who were interested in an adult or puppy CsW. (also a silly one who did want to import 3 puppy's for himself at once:roll:) And i did give them a lot of info about the breed.
So I was wondering if they did import already one.

I understand, if you ever come to Greece, let me know. I live in Athens. It would be nice to meet.

Crying Wolf Boston lives in Athen and Crying Wolf Lord lives in Tessaloniki, both .are family dog

Waldwico Girios dvasia also lives in Greece.

Do you have contact details of the owners of those who live in Athens?

Iw oudl appreciate if you could give them to me so i cna get in touhc with them.

Best,
Nicholas

Could you send me his/her pedigree name?
Thanks!

Sure... 8) We have info about:

Waldwico Girios dvasia
Crying Wolf Boston
Ketrin Eden severu
B.Laïza les Plaines de l'Est
Arimminum Italian Wolf
Arimminum Aurora
Arimminum Gryza
Crying Wolf Lord

Margo i would appreciate if you could ask the owners if it is ok to send me their contact details and if so you can send them as a private message.
Is this ok by you?

FILE MENO THESSALONIKI KAI WAXNO NA BRO SKILI .APO POU TO PIRES KAI POSO ?POS EINAI O XARAKTIRAS TOU KTL . TO EMAIL MOU EINAI [email protected] SE PARAkalo STEILE .

Dear Margo,

I know this reply is way too late, and i apologize for that. Tristan's father is Aron Sokoli Oko (BOB05 PW07 CH PT, LOP322705) and his mother is Quenn of Dreams Molu ES (CH PT, LOP313314). Tristan's real name from the breeder is Zorro Do Lugar Do Poco.

I would like your help on the following. I am interested to mate Tristan and i have no idea if there are any CSWs in Greece. I have read the names here on the forum and i was wondering if any of these dogs is a female. I would like to have the contacts of the owners and call them to see if anyone is interested in mating his/her female wiht Tristan.

I would be greatful if you could help me on that.

Other than that, Tristan is a really beuatiful dog and perfectly healthy now. He is about 43kg now and full of energy. Messing around with him is really fun. The only thing is that when ever anybody tries to pet him, he likes to grab people's hands and put it in his mouth. He does not bite fiercly but for some people this is annoying. I have tried almost anything to make him stop but with no success. Any ideas?

Thanks in advance for your help and kind regards.

Nicholas

And what about first test the hips and elbows to see if the dog is able to be a stud dog?
Maybe a working exam or something like that for test the behaviour of the dog as BH maybe Sch1 seeing that in Greece not have the Bonitation?
Isn't like "I have a male you have a female, lets mate", you first must know if your dog is able to be used as stud.
After that you need know if have some experienced owners prepared to have a CzW at home in greece case female owner not want stay with all puppies as future pet.
Normally the owner of the females contact the owner of the stud dog for mate, maybe if you going to dogshows and do these exams some females owners wo're interested in breed will contact you for a mate.

Greetings

Paula

And you should get informed what you need to breed with pedigrees. To produce litters without pedigrees is no good idea.

I would like to make clear that i do not intend to become a breeder.
I want to mate my dog just for him to feel better due to his urges. I have absolutely no intention of selling the puppies. I will find people who want them to give them away for free.
As you understand i do not want to reproduce champions. Instead of mating Tristan with another breed i am trying to see if there is any female in Greece who's owner might be interested. If not i will see what i will do. The idea of sterilizing Tristan is out of the question.

This is the worst thing you can do to a breed and the most egoistic.

Ina

I'm really shocked.:shock:

This stuppid idea's:stupido,is why the animalshelter is always full.

"I want my dog to have sex and feel happy" - is this what you think? :) But this is totally wrong, it will be only worse for your dog and for you. In wild nature not all the wolfs get a possibility to mate and so what? They live their happy lifes without that, I am sure Tristan would also feel ok ;)

O, let's suppose that i agree with you. Give me an idea as to how am i supposed to deal with such an issue. I am open to ideas

If You will breed mas have reproductors sertificat. Greece IS FCI members and all reguls is whe have others countrys.
but if Ypu will make Yours dogs from boys -to man, this is stupid ideas-You latter have BIGEST problems with hes temperament and living, not have yet.

yes, stupid ideas :twisted:

I think you have much more problems with the idea ,that your dog has to live without sex:twisted:.
Than your dog have8)

I am curious how you can be so concerned with how Tristan "feels" because of his urges, but how you can have no concern for the health and wellbeing of his potential progeny should you breed him only to alleviate his sexual urges. Without hip dysplasia results, how could you ensure the puppies would have the best possible chance of not suffering from painful joint problems? Results are no guarantee, but it is obviously cruel, and a bad decision to breed with a dog that has bad results. And what about temperment issues? If you yourself are having behavioral problems with your own puppy that you are unable to 100% manage, how could you be helpful to the people that you "give" the puppies to if they have the same problems? What would happen to the puppies if the new owners decided that they were too much to handle - shelters, or worse, euthanasia? As you know for sure by now, CsVs have very unique needs and traits than other breeds- our dog's breeder has been wonderful in answering our questions, and helping us to help our puppy adjust to her new family. Could you sleep comfortably at night knowing a portion of the CsVs in your country lived lives in pain or in animal shelters because of your desire to give your dog a sex life? I hope not...

Let's for a while leave the moral issues... I see from the above conversation it's like trying to explain to a two-year- old that he mustn’t play with a knife... (Sorry Nicolas, but that's how it appears to me:cry:)

But try to be more far-sighted: CSV females are on heat just roughly once a year and the dog is interested in them for a few days only. So how frequently do you want to satisfy your dog's needs? Just once a year? Wouldn't this be too seldom?:twisted:

I don't suppose you're the sort of person who would keep travelling all round Europe to make your dog happy or that many CSV females owners would like to play your game. What then? Buy CSV females from puppy-mills to start a harem for Tristan? This wouldn't help either because very soon the females would either be on heat at the same time of the year, or only one of them would be on heat like it happens in a pack of wolves.

I remember how much everybody here tried to help you when Tristan was little and you were having problems with him. I suppose you should trust people who wish you well, offered you their time and care and know a lot both about the breed and problems connected with it. If they say you might have serious behavioural problems with Tristan after the mating (especially when he's too young) they know what they’re writing about. Why not listen to their advice? Why not learn first and act later?

Besides, remember that physiology of a dog is not the same as the physiology of a man. Don't humanize Tristan, however much you love him.

What kind of "issue" do you mean? :roll:

Dear all,

Please forgive my ignorance. I had no idea about the mating of wolfdogs and i had obviously the wrong impression with regards to Tristan's needs. However please note that not everybody in this forum is an expert hence i think there was no need for you to start attacking me. For example Rona said exactly what all of you were saying in a far mopre polite manner.

I now have the complete picture and i understood my mistake.


Thank you all for your help.

Best,
Nicholas

Nicholas, you don't need to be a breeder for use your male as stud, often the stud owners aren't breeder but common people, you only need see if your dog is able to be a stud dog or not, if all right, the owners of the females will contact you interested in mate ;-)
If you're interested in make your dog a stud, why not start showing he in dogshows? Only for fun, in dogshows you meet some people who love dogs, you show your dog and some possible future CzW breeder in greece can see that you have a beautiful male and be interested in use him, you can learn a lot about dogs and change information with people (normally breeders, owners and handlers) that are in the dogshow, as they can help you in find a good professional for train your dog solving the bite problem and also for help you to teach your dog and prepare him for pass at least one working exam.
When he have 18 months, go to one vet officially able to make the Displasy X-rays of elbows and hips, I guess the kennel club can help you to find the nearer "official" vet for you have these exams done.
If everything be all right, if he don't have problems in elbows or hips, if he pass some working tests (proving he have good character), then you will have a stud dog.
That isn't easy, but can be a wonderful experience for a dog owner.

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Geiasou Nikola psaxno na iothetiso ena pup yparxoun ektrofeis stin ellada na m protineis i telospanton ksereis pos mporo na apoktiso ena dioti exasa ton diko mou apo astheneia kai tora niotho kai pali etoimos na apoktiso ksana enan CWD kai thelo na vro kalo ektrofea na paro kalo skili xoris genetika problimata kai na ypoferoume opos ypefera me to proigoumeno m moro.