MISSING CREDIBILITY of WD database
 

It seem that all WORLD OF THE CZECHOSLOVAKIAN WOLFDOGS have got some credibility problems.

First of ALL .... before putting some wrong informations into the database, WD administrator / moderators / etc should check this information !

As example, you changed the owners of ALOBA de la Louve Blanche... and fixed that my kennel Z Orel Ochrana is the new owner...

The only thing is Alob has been covered by my male Ar'wan... (but unfortunally, no baby remained of borning, only one baby died after borning...)

I am also still the owner of severals dogs in your database... some of them sold, other died... but i am stil owner !!! ... and you have the information from several months !!!!

I ONLY HAVE 4 CWs in my home,

Ar'wan MLS
Ckaa'loup-bah MLS
D'Chenoa z Orel Ochrana
Banska z Orel Ochrana - LUPIFELIX
and i have some co-ownership but the co-ownerships are registered to the others owners...

And we have many many facts in this case...

Other case : for one breeder WD database has totally invented the parents of a "virtual" dog created to show that WD is cheating the database... and has worked.

WHAT WILL YOU DO IN THE FUTURE TO GIVE WD DATABASE CREDIBILITY ?

Sorry, I do not understand what you mean by this, can you tell us more ???

Best regards / Mikael

Admin and other must know which databse information are good or not...

... the problem is that they often steal informations from breeder's website

... and sometimes the information are FALSE !

If they haven't done that, i suppose less problem !

I'm not sure what you're getting to with this - do you want them to remove dogs that have died from the database? Then what would be the point?

Also, you were the owner of the dog when it died so (IMO) it would be good so if people wanted to get in touch with those lines, etc, they know who owned the dog.

As for the sold dogs - maybe the new owner doesn't want their information posted, so they're listing you (I'm assuming you're the breeding kennel?) for the same reason as above.

I have no problem to discuss about the blood line, problem we can meet... medical one if exists...

... the main problem is that the WD database is creating some details and when you sent informations to the moderators and asked for updates you received

"We must wait for update"... and then 2 months after you see false information into your dogs...

... at the same time, ADMIN for WD is attacking french breeders...

First time to do something is to be clean before anything...

WD is existing because we also accept our dogs could enter in the database, don't forget that !!!

A new WD database cheating !!!


I just have learned that i have a new litter from Ar'wan de la Mollynière de Lo'Scale X Althéa de la Seven Loup Cie...

GREATS !!!!

Althéa is the female of BRAY Corine and hasn't got any pupps from the last litter with Ar'wan (the 29 / 10 / 2009).

Any more things i can learn from WD databse ???

What are you doing ???

Oh, for sure WD has some wrong data, as I'm sure WD just gets information from a) owner submitting or b) find the information on the web.

Neither of which is verified by documents. If I submit my dog having won Best in Show, WD doesn't ask for some proof. If I write my dog covered so and so, WD doesn't check if it's true..If I say I sold my dog, it is so..

But WD also is not paid to do it and never guaranteed veracity unlike that which kennel clubs are required to..

WD is like a convenient compilation of the information, which each country's KC should have documents of, provided the KC is reputable and honest.

WD to me is a nice reference site kind of like Wikipedia, but you must always check 'primary source' when doing serious research too..

Who has interest to change the owner of ALOBA de La Louve Blanche and registered it is me now ?

Who has interest to imagine that we have new pupps from Ar'wan X Althea de la Seven Loup Cie ?

Nothing is written onto WEBSITEs because there is no litter....

Who has interest to NOT CHANGE the DATABASE when i sent data to correct it (about sold dogs...) ?

Who has got the interest to not change that i am the owner of Chuuck Running wolf... and i sent several messages to notify that...

I always surprise that WD database sometimes make so a LOT OF ENERGY to hide some facts...

Where is CREDIBILITY there ???

... i always ENJOY to help world of czecoslovakian to be built... but sometimes, we are fed up of some behaviours from PEOPLE BACK A KEYBOARD !

Surly nobody 8)
It must either be a mircale, like the DM results of some dogs, or maybe the Admin doesn't like you? :heul Now, be fair and tell us what you have done to the poor Admin? :diablotin :lol:

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Sorry, but when I read the news from the French-Admin war I feel as if I were in the middle of Franz Kafka's novel :stupido

... really nothing ... Maybe something .. telling him (her) the true ...

SORRY BUT SOME OF YOU PEOPLE ARE SIMPLY INCREDIBLE INSOLENT!!!


First - the breeder of Aloba didn't send any names of the dog owners. He is sending nothing - after the MIX-gate I do not wonder he want to hide his "results".

Second - the owner also didn't send his personal data.

It is why the name WAS NOT THERE. I'm not the fairy to read in your minds!!!!

Third - you wrote that you plan a litter with Aloba. And it means that AT LAST YOU MUST BE THE CO-OWNER of this dog! It is why you was put there (since there was no info about any other owner of this dog). It was done automatically because you was not kindly enough send any data about the female you want to use for breeding....

Your litter was not published because there is not HD-result of the female. And you belong to the breeders who is not sending any information for the database...

Sorry but for me you are now just another person who want to exploit me, the server and the work of other breeders and CsW owners to make business and to sell the puppies.

You didn't offer ANYTHING. You send NO DATA. But you still required from us to advertise your puppies. When it was not done you start a huge rumble.

Was is so hard to write ONE SMALL EMAIL WITH THE NAME OF THE OWNER? OR MAYBE IT IS NOT ABOUT THE WRONG/MISSING DATE? Just another way to throw mud on Wolfdog.org because it is publishing information about the pedigree cheating of your friends????

YES, BINGO!!!

I add only information of dogs of my friends and people who pay me. Later I will send you my PayPal account number.... After I receive the payment I will even put some stars next to your kennel name....


PS. Sorry, are you joking? Or it is new strategy to find invented problems where there aren't any....?

LIKE IT !!!!!!:lol::lol::lol::lol:

ADMIN explain what happened with my dogs !!!!

And also ... anybody know who i am...


... but you ????

Sherdor & others which loved big-sized-carnival-colored-letters, can you all stop to write like an hysteric?

Trust me if someone epileptic roll down the page quickly the poor creature could die by an seizure.

very good question who You are too :lol: I think better not quest this when can have very not like antswer.:twisted:

:lol: warning Daiva :lol:

it's Sherdor, French breeder professional ....:lol:

works say he is profesional or not and planed litters, tested dogs and interesing pedigree, not paper A4 in rames about "preofesional" producing :lol:

Daiva I mean it's easy to hide back a pseudo...

All people can see my adress, name, dogs, everything, othing to hide...

... i was talking to ADMIN.

But gods of WD sry we are so smallest people compared too you...


And finally NO ANSWER TO THE LAST CHANGE ONTO DATABASE CONCERNING MY DOGS...

Nop, not any ide :| ???

So please tell us, as we are not so much on the French forum...

Very best regards / Mikael

About dogs better can self- go to box and see are they or not :lol:

hmm nothing to hide- litters without HD, this same litters with this same male. very profesional breeding :lol:

antswer about admin
http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showpos...7&postcount=64
http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showpos...4&postcount=65
http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showpos...5&postcount=66
http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showpos...8&postcount=67

all info have in forum WHY not read good ?

I already sent several mp and emails... You want the copy ? Do you want me to copy HERE the emails i have sent 2 years ago about the owners of my puppies ?? Maybe nobody gave them to you ?


I didn't have to send you anything about ALOBA... Aloba still dogs of Michael CIANNAMEA... and i only accept to cover with my male the only condition is to be with my affix name...

... that represents good garantee to new owner of the pups, followings, advice, medical support, etc...


I have th HD results of ALOBA (i pay myself for official reading... and it is not my dog) ...

Why do i give it to you ??? Make change in your behaviour then we will see...

... No need WD to sell my pupps... 99,9 % of them sold in France.

WD is representing to me the way of meeting people... and gave my experience...

Of course you maybe don't speak french... but many post i explains things about nutrition, behaviour experiences, and more and more subjects... but the main problem is, the last year, some people are attacking everyone

I have no friends to defend, i only defend that YOU MUST BE CLEAN BEFORE ATTACKING PEOPLE... AND NO ATTACK FRENCH BREEDERs

Your soldiers here in France like Martial always try to make problem with anybody...

Any breeders don't want to give any information because all datas are used to make trouble...

It is not the way of saving the breed, only the way to increase the power of a small group of persons...

Follow in that way, and at the end nothing would stayed interesting in WD !

i wonder how so many adult serious people can spend so much time for idle talks like this... it started from some doubts about some pedigrees, but look how many pages of blablabla we already have and... still no tests which could immidiately stop all the disputes. is it so difficult to decide what dogs to test, where and how? surely it's more easy than to "declassify" admin :lol:

Explain please Daiva ???

My litters done and with puppies (with my affix) :

2007 : Ar'wan MLS x Araya od Starkej

2008 : Ar'wan MLS x Cynthia Spod Dumbiera

2009 : Ar'wan MLS x Althea de la Seven Loup Cie

2009 : Ar'wan MLS x Orion Eden Severu

2010 : Dolfus des Gardiens de la Cour X Calais z Orel Ochrana

2011 : Voice of Voice Z Molu Es X Ckaa'loup-bah MLS

Litters with my male but not my affix

2008 : Ar'wan MLS x Althea de la Seven Loup Cie

Litters tryed with no puppies :

2010 : Furcas z peronowski X Calaïs z Orel Ochrana

2010 : Furcas z Peronoswki X D'Chenoa Z Orel Ochrana

2011 : Ar'wan MLS X Aloba de la Louve Blanche


.... but the main problem is that ADMIN (&friends) HAVE INVENTED MAYBE NEW LITTERS !!!!

in this case WHY to You very important WD. ;)

and who atack? we speak about problems who are in CSV world not moore, if You see in this problem and think this is atack... maybe You self mas change a Your behaviour about others countrys :)

Sherdor, I'm not soldier :lol: , just I like the CSW and I'm impassioned 8)

this same male almost in all liter- You realy not love a breed
and NOT write with big letters if make this moore time I give You red card

Morian - for funn, I wait maybe he moore say info about 3th lands :)

eh daiva, i know - they are still angry for 1812 ;)

yes yes i think this is true

Be sure i will use my male another time...

Do you still sold more than 800 € your dogs Daiva ?


.... so 5 more time than one month salary in your country ?

It is a really a fact that show you like the breed... or maybe MONEY ?????

(only 1200 € for me, only one month of salary here... and all registered for tax office...)

oo cham back :twisted::twisted::twisted: I wait this thanks - dear profesional producent

No problem... Bless you.

:lol: very funny this thread :lol:

thanks Sherdor, you are great !!!!! :lol: :roll:

aha funny - he not can forgot this situation when he try 3 years buy one female from my kennel :lol:

I don't hide i ask you for a female... why not ?

Your way of breeding could have respect from me. i like to see your 2 females here in France.

There is no problem to me...

I never said anything about your breeding choice, your idea, etc... if your respect people, you can do the same...

And because i know you will post Martial... it is the same for you... If you didn't attacked me, nothing happened... we would have such a lot of experience to exchange because you have the sister of a female used with Ar'wan...

But it is so... there is people which need to fight ! So go on...

Then I should sell my dogs for about 50 euros, as the month salary here is about 150 euros. :lol:

The difference is that this poor lithuanian breeder had a lot of costs to make the litters, traveling far for cover, also the same breeder is well known to help her country helping people to bring dogs with new bloodlines, and the best is that she need to listen from a "breeder" like you that her dog is too expensive due the monthly salary of her country!! :lol:

I dont know how you DARE to speak like that here, as you've done NOTHING for CzW breed at your contry that not only sell PET dogs!

I'm beginning to regret I didn't study French language harder at school - seems you have a very funny forum :lol:

I atack - You joke :) I only speak about situation in forum You make hystery in this all and cry and jumping.
yes very sad, when young female not stay interesing puppy and die very young. very sad.
hmm qestion breeder sale she with this price who you say :lol::lol::lol: or CZ not are in this poore countrys list who you make :twisted:

Sherdor, about me : "we would have such a lot of experience to exchange because you have the sister of a female used with Ar'wan..."

it's joke ???? no ???

remember you please, on french Forum about my first litter, you say about me, I'm very bad breeder, unconscious, bad socialization….

You seek Friends ??? sorry my little boy, not me 8)

We all can see here and here, for exemple, how wolfdog.org is unimportant for you to announce your litters and sell pup's.

Of course Nebulosa YES....

And i have many many many many post in many many many website

... and i WILL only used WD for that now ...

Each argue you have something to say against and attack credibility...

Go on ....

Paula, :cool3 :lol:

WHY you see only atack - very funny - we nice speak about wolfdog in wolfdog forum and only you see a atack :lol:. I not see, Martiou too, Nebulosa too, only you :lol:

Yeah... go on Wolfin !

Why don't you use your moderator capability ?

Easiest. Quicker !

why you angry? not understand :( I love speak with you about all - very funn

Kiss ! Kiss !

Your localisation "Where the wolf lives" is it a nice place ?

paula, happy end! you can close this topic :lol::popcorn:

very :) nice place with woods, water and wolfs