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I received your results... but are you sure that I should add them? If I will make it you will be attacked by other users that you have special connections with the moderators.... :rock_3 It was I joke... I can add it... ;) The problem with the results is pretty complicated... there are TOO many of them... Some people have the right to add them but they add only few and usually really the results which came from their friends... I was asked (as the old part was our work) to add some new people who could be able to put the results online but it will not work... Not because we do not want it but because the data about the user rights were in the part of Wolfdog which crashed... We do not want to change something there because everything can crash (all results and all database)... We MUST leave it for now... Anyway people who have the right will add the results which they have and at least it would be up to date soon... |
excuse me for making texts translated for google. The language is a great problem for my.
Margo, I am going to try that the translation is correct possible mas in order that you understand me correctly. It would be dishonest to ask that alone the results update my me. It is not it what I am claiming. I have repeated that I understand the situation of the web, and understand that it does not put on any result. The great majority, I include myself also, we are learning and a way of learning is see proved that happen everywhere. Many of that begin take this very importantly. Another people give him a lot of importance also to the results at the moment of finding males, females and puppies. If a few "partial" results appear we are giving erroneous information. It is a hard work, I know it. If you need my help always you will have it. But when I see something that I think that it is not good also I will be the first one in saying it. I have seen the great effort that you have realized for introducing the information. CONGRATULATION!. This is a great benefit for the wolfdog race. |
I must openly apologize to the Admin. Several months ago, when the admin had changed and all of the selections on the left side of the page disappeared, I thought it was due to negligence of the new people in charge, so I stopped visiting Wolfdog. I am sad to hear about the crash, but I am happy it is getting a "freshening up". I am anxious to get my first litter into your system! Keep us posted! Jason Young
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Add info please...
Thank you!!!!! One question - does "pies" mean dog in Polish? And "hodowca", breeder? Thank you again!
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Yes Marcy ;)
One question to admin: How I can add here new male? http://www.wolfdog.org/php/modules.p...&file=studdogs |
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I will add photos of my puppy´s as fast as I get the time and hope all other kennels will do that to, as now ALLOT of the spring litters have no photos... Very best regards / Mikael |
Yes, i tried to add photos of my pups from which was born in winter 2010, but it is not possible. But I wait. ....
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In fact in Polish 'dog' is PIES, but plural (dogs) - PSY, which BTW is grammar exception. However, there is another similar word: PIESZY (pedestrian) of which plural (pedestrians) is PIESI.:oops: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Q...%252520136.jpg When my British friend saw this road sign, she commented: "I'm impressed! Polish people must love dogs if they place road signs that warn drivers against dogs running off-leash" :lol: |
I just wanted to report an error in my dog's page:
http://www.wolfdog.org/ita/dbase/d11122.html I see his sex was recently changed into female... I agree his looks are quite feminine, but he's a male :lol: Thank you for your work ;-) |
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Hi Margo, do you know where is problem? I sent do gallery photos of all my pups from litters AII, BII, CII and DII. But now I can see only litter AII and part of BII. Where are other photos? Must I send them once again? Or are photos "somewhere in system" and they will be visible later?
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Things to be added to the database...
une nouvelle fois encore je vais demander que mes coordonnées soient retirées de cette base de données.
une nouvelle fois je vous interdit de divulguer mon adresse, mon numero de telephone, ma ville ......... en quelle langue il faut le dire??? en anglais: yet again I will ask my contact information be removed from the database. again I will not disclose my address, my phone number, my city ......... en allemand: noch einmal will ich fragen, meine Kontaktdaten aus der Datenbank entfernt werden. wieder werde ich nicht preisgeben meine Adresse, meine Telefonnummer, meine Stadt ......... en bresilien, portugais: mais uma vez eu vou pedir minhas informações de contato ser removido do banco de dados. novamente eu não vou revelar o meu endereço, meu telefone, minha cidade ......... en polonais: jeszcze raz zadam moje dane kontaktowe zostać usunięte z bazy danych. znowu nie będzie ujawniać mojego adresu, mój numer telefonu, moje miasto ......... en russe: еще раз спрошу мою контактную информацию быть удалены из базы данных. я не буду раскрывать мой адрес, мой телефон, мой город ......... on peut essayer le vietnamien: nhưng một lần nữa tôi sẽ yêu cầu thông tin liên lạc của tôi được loại bỏ khỏi cơ sở dữ liệu. một lần nữa tôi sẽ không tiết lộ địa chỉ, số điện thoại của tôi, thành phố của tôi ......... je peux même le faire en hindi !!!!!! एक बार फिर मैं पूछना होगा मेरे संपर्क जानकारी डेटाबेस से हटा दिया जाए. फिर मैं अपना पता, मेरा फोन नंबर, मेरे शहर का खुलासा नहीं करेगा ......... donc vu que l'on peut oter des post immédiatement, je pense que l'on peut aussi retirer des coordonnées merci à vous d'avance |
did you add the DNA tests and melopathie tests in the new database?
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Thank you Admin
I just want to say a BIG thank you for all the information you have just posted :gent:Rose
and to apologise if I seemed impatient :oops: You are doing great work with the site and it is going from strength to strength. Thank you again |
great work, great possibilities for us... thanks from russia too :gent
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wrong photo again
http://www.wolfdog.org/site/dbase/d/16205
This photo is not my puppy. Katherine is total different type and colour This is real Katherine http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...72430641_n.jpg |
Lovely girl.
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Katherine really is a pretty girl :)
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On the topic, this is the wrong dog...
http://www.wolfdog.org/site/dbase/d/15401 That is my male, Galomy Oak Adams Morgan (as a puppy) :p |
Another one: This does not show Diablo....
http://www.wolfdog.org/site/gallery/pic/31809/ It'd be great if it will be removed from "his" gallery ;-) |
Database updates
Dear Admin,
How's the progress with the database? Are there still bugs in the breeding tags? A few weeks ago I sent you the HD result (A) of my dog Delan van Hiemrod together with his pedigree and testresults of DM and dwarfism with the request to list him as a breeding stud as he fulfills all necessary requirements to be approved for breeding. I uploaded it all and sent it also by separate mail, but nothing happened since. He has recently been approved as a stud dog in the Netherlands by the official breed club. > See also his inclusion as stud dog on the site of the Dutch chsechoslovakian wolfdog breed club click here . I don't want to be impatient, but may I ask you to list him as a stud dog on wolfdog ( on his breeding tag info and on the total list of stud dogs), together with his HD result which is still missing? Thanks in advance! |
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I have sended all info and photos very long time ago and there is still wrong photos and i can´t but own photos. Dogs are not in database.
Litter is over 9 moth old... Satu |
you have one ( and moore themas) about your problem with administration. not can writte in this ONE thema but mas make new and new? not can search old themas like this http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showthread.php?t=9103 ? you a little spaming now forum I think Admin make clear all this chaos.
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Thank you Admin, for the links! very nice to have :)
I had sent an email, previously, asking how to add info about show results for my Elsa. If I am supposed to send it to you, am I to attach the certificates in an email? what is the email? Also, under "OK to Breed" what do you need to change "No" to "Yes" ? Thanks again! :p |
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http://www.wolfdog.org/site/wolfdog/submit/shows is the link to submit show data. Approved to breed is explained here: http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showthread.php?t=21161 |
Unfortunately, still nothing happened.....
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Last database update: 04/10/2011 23:12
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Thank you! I submitted them, so we should see results in late 2013... |
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I would request that American dogs be required to have their CHIC number to be approved for breeding (and of course passing health scores) beginning in 2012. http://www.caninehealthinfo.org/brdreqs.html?breed=CW When scores are checked on the OFFA or CHIC database, the dogs name will have a small emblem that says "CHIC" |
I'm in no rush.. Can't wait to get my CERF certs in...;)
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AKC requirements basically don't exist outside of having a valid pedigree, and the required minimum ages for males and females are so young that it wouldn't be really possible for mating to occur before that anyway.. CHIC is decidedly not an AKC requirement for registration.. it is strictly optional and voluntary, I wonder what will be done? |
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I tried to open the links and it says: Problem in database connection! Does anyone managed to see these links lately? Maybe database is still under construction? Admin? Thanks a lot! Beatrice. |
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I'll send no more results !
Because I've sent 3 x the DM results and the shows results and there is always nothing on her page !!! And a lot of people will do the same ! |
the information i sent prior to the last update was put onto the database the last time it was updated. :)
I have since sent many other results, but I know it won't show up until the next time the database is updated. It is easy to see when the updates have happened. ;-) |
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But I've sent the HD and ED results with the DM results together. On the database there is only the HD and ED !!! And the last results for the shows were on July ! I've make some other shows after this date ! And I've sent the results ! |
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Admin has a huge job to do keeping the database up to date, it is hardly surprising that it isn't updated every day, never mind month. If they don't have the data, they can never add it, so please keep sending all the data and, as long as it is valid and confirmed, it will be added in time. Like Yukidomari, not all our data was included with the last update, but I am sure it will be in the next - or even the one after that. We must have patience :p
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Dear Admin!
What I understand from what you write here, that every dog has to appear in the database (new litters, breeding male, HD, ED) which has the right for breeding. In Hungary, you only need Hungarian bonitation. For example, HD is not needed. Because you mentioned me multiple time that without HD filter you won't put our soon nascent puppies on webpage. You should know every country's breeding rules. I think that you overrule the F.C.I.'s rules. Steve Varga, Hungary, Neckartal Kennel |
Going above and beyond
It is always a good idea to try to achieve more than what is needed. It is in everyone's best interest that all dogs' hips are properly checked. I fully support this database requiring more than the minimum..
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That HD x-ray was to be done on both parents before one could put up a litter on the planned litter... So I gues it is officiall HD result + the roles for breeding in every county that is needed to put your litter info on Wolfdog... But than again :? Ho wold even breed whitout taken HD x-ray on there dogs :? :? :? ????????????????????????????? Best regards / M |
:shock: if we go by each Kennel Club's requirements, then dogs bred from US need nothing at all, besides to have a pedigree..(sometimes under special cases, not even that!!) :shock::shock:
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But the Vlcak club recomends HD and ED x-ray AND last but not least, the buyers demands it ;) ( + 151 show results of no value at all, but it is important it say Champion at the end :twisted: ) Best regards / Mikael |
Is there a breed club for the CSV in Hungary that makes recommendations for the breed? It is a requirement of the The Czechoslovakian Vlcak Club of America (though as Jing said, not the AKC) to have a CHIC number before breeding (HD, ED, DM, yearly eye exam, and submittal to the DNA repository required, with dwarfism, cardiac and thyroid recommended)...with just a few exceptions for older imported dogs, or if a foreign male is used. It's in our code of ethics...it is also written that only healthy dogs, or properly matched dogs in the cases of DM and dwarfism, be used. Also, obtaining a CHIC number requires all results to be public...
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Does he give out HD status to ??? Very best regards / Mikael |
Problem with info on database
Hello, I'm writing here and hope in an answer, cause is not the first time!
I need to cancel my name on the database, the name of my dog. Nobody ask me the information for the database, nobody knows what about for my dog. I want to cancel my name cause what is writting on my dog is totally FALSE Can you contact me here or on Facebook (alessia pasquali) please? Need some information Alessia Pasquali |
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Have someone manage to open one of the links above? I tried hard for several months, but nothing ... Please let me know if you have a solution! Thanks! |
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hello admin, you can delete offering of Una Od Úhoště, because she is not for sale already.
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Hi admin,
Thank you for adding the DM results for Eywa du Domaine de la Combe Noire. But now there is no more the HD results (B/B) and what is the (_?_) beside the name ? Thank you for your answer ! |
Can I know why you stealed datas fom my website? I don´t wish it!!!!
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Dear Admin,
I would like to know from where you have taken the main photo of Cara Mela Waawanyanka? I hope, you can change it. In her gallery you could find a lot of photos. |
For what I know, the wolfdog.org server had an crash and several informations were messed up, also as the dogshows results and photos sent after day 04.03.2012 were lost.
If you have wrong informations and wrong owners (really wrong ones, like what happened with some French dogs, who appeared with Ondrej from SK as owner), it might be this problem. |
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Please, one question for Admin,
I found that my first three litter are signed in yellow colour like dead dogs,but I don't know where Adim take this not real information and why Admin decide that my dogs are dead. This dogs( I'Nahani,I'Navarre,Istar,Chyzma,Gorgeous Wolf,Gora,..)now are only old but they have excellent health. In additional other my two litter have symbol ?What it means?It's because the father are from kennel Louve Blanche and Crying Wolf ? This dogs have pure pedigree of clc 100%.Why Echo Crying Wolf have symbol "!".This is because Echo is the son of Crying Wolf son of Hitt spod Dumbiera and Arys z Oravy? At this point why all full litter M of Crying Wolf is not reported with symbol? It's incredible that Falko Kollarov dvor have symbol too.All this situation is very unhappy.In the past Wolfdog was a reliable website. |
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Why? Because Margo wants.... :/ |
I don't know why we lost our time to ask some questions to admin !!! There are no answers ! Like always !!!
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I love childish people who point the fingers to other people blindly, at the same time that protect puppy millers because "it's from my country". :lol:
O bet Daniela would say that wolfdog.org is perfect if the Admin was Czech! :lol: :lol: |
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Of course, the Czech admin - Vltava´s blood :bigok:roflmao
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everybody would hate admin if (s)he were russian :lol::rock_3
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Yes Morian - and even much more I guess if (s)he were German....!!
Best greetings to all - Silvester |
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good job with the new features!!! realy like it. what im missing here is to list in photos in gallery with one click, like on facebook, now i must go everytime a step back and click on another photo...
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According to the data base there is 893 dogs tag (_?_) and 1726 tag (_!_) so that’s made 2619 suspicious dogs …
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I am very excited to see the features reappear once again at the side! Is it possible to include the "puppy tool" button again, showing Wright's co-efficient/pedigree for potential litters? This was such a helpful tool for breeders, and one of my favorite features. :) Thanks!
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What I make wrong?
What am I doing wrong?
I send all my data more quickly. But it is very fast under my breeders name Info: The Breeder send not the informations!!! What is the current e-mail address for information? I have send the Data more and more. [email protected] and more adresses,..... its ugly and verry sad for the breed! Greetings Markus Breeder Midgardhus |
Welcome to the Club! My L-litter is not here and K-litters have wrong photos...Can take more than 10years...
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I still cant understand from where to put my 5 CSV and one litter in database. Keep wallking !!!!
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hi, so the new features on wolfdog are cool, but still, you should do your job first - update the database and then do some "magic" in design and features.
what i realy do not like is, that some breeders, for some reasons do not have theire litters in the database - if i choose a breeder, who you "dont like" (sorry for the words), without reason, there are no his litters. and that is realy sh*tty. why? because it makes no sence to NOT display the litters. the litters are born, have pedigree,... so why do not show them? realy stupid. the next thing is, the editing of shows - the results are not complete and can not be complete, because few dogs are missing in the database and so can not be add in the results. it is a good idea, that people can update the results, but still, please update the database first and than do the rest. i know this is still a private server, but people are sending you the infos, so it is a good thing, to complete it and upload more often. i kow, as a private server, you can do, what you want - but still - if someone has litters, has dogs with pedigree, why do you delete this litters? and the thing with ? and !. please, realy. it is too funny and too crazy to have nearly hlaf of dogs in database with this mark. i know, you want to "warn" people, but still, you dont have proofs! in many cases. for myself I realy do not like the mixes, i know, they are mixes, because they do not look like wolfdogs, because they are too different. but why is this mark by dogs, who are "old line" dogs? this server is gonna to "die" because of these wars between breeders, because of money and fame, gossip... and it is shame, because it was the only plase, where can people see pedigrees of different dogs. so please, at first, there are soo many litters, soo many info and data, you have got, why dont you upload it? why are you deleting many litters from breeders "who do not sent infos to you" - why should they? when you dont upload it eather? i realy apologise for "bad" words, but i know, wolfdog isnt the place for getting data anymore, but place for getting gossip. |
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Well written words. I only can confirm your opinion... sad but true. Angela |
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I don't even see it in terms of "proofs"... I simply don't think the job of this website should be to "warn" anybody. If one is stupid enough to buy a pup without doing the proper research about health, genealogy, temperament, reputability of the breeder and so on, well... he/she deserves what he/she gets (a mix, an unhealthy dog, a dog with bad temperament or whatever). The problem in my opinion is at a higher level. In some countries pedigrees are delivered too easily, dogs can be bred without any requirements, people can become "breeders" without any proved knowledge, there is no control over the activity of the breeders and on the litters that are registered and one can basically do whatever he/she wants. I don't think this website could fix this mess, nor should it try to replace the parties whose responsibility is to avoid or solve this mess (FCI, breed clubs etc). |
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Why? If the breeders do not send the data who makes it - who collect the data? The clubs NEVER send any official data - at least I NEVER get any official information before even if the club(s) promised us to do so. So it is the work of "usual" breeders/owners who collect the information. They make it for free - they send even the data of their ENEMIES (because they really love the breed). sorry but it would be not fair if such people would have to work much more then the lazy people who will collect PURE money for it. The rule was always VERY clear and I know it didn't changed: if you send the data your kennel name and litters will be advertised. CLEAR and EASY. It is really so hard to send the FEW NAMES? 8) I know that last time there is additional rule because of the problems in the Hungarian, Italian, Finish and French kennel clubs. There are to many fake litters born and the kennel clubs have no control. In this case I also think it must be finally solved on the official way and finally the origin clubs or the owners community should make any legal steps against the breeders/countries. Because it is getting worser and worser. Quote:
The cheaters are GREAT LIARS. They can play great responsible owners - some of them are even members of the boards/breeding committees of the CsW clubs. No - if even the "experienced" owners/breeders are being lied by them then lets say it openly: "beginners" have no chance to make good choice. Or even to buy a purebreed dog. Although I hope that soon if will be solved by FCI - it is their obligation to guaranty that the FCI pedigree respond with the reality. BTW: My idea is to change the description of the Italian dogs. Yes, it is true that Foresta Incantata and Passo del Lupo (and some kennels who use their dogs) breed Saarloos-CsW mixes and register them as pure CsW. But as far I know the ENCI have it under control - there is no danger that any of those kennels will make fake litters and sold those dogs with other pedigrees because it can bee easily solved on the legal way already in Italy. |
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On the other side - it seems the "war" is working. The Czech and Slovakian club will test officially the "Y"-litter of Crying Wolf (although I was pretty surprised because I was hoping that the Czech breeder will report her own dogs (as they come from the suspicious litters of Crying Wolf) and not the dogs of other breeders but I hope it will be also done in the future). :p I doubt if the Hungarian club will make anything. I see the same black future for France - also there the will to fix the pedigrees and to punish the cheaters. But I think it is still possible to clear at least the air in some countries. |
PS - I would also like to as for the database/gallery update as I would like to add (many) photos take during the meetings/shows/bonitations.... :)
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But what about the others? I personally don't see the point in warning people telling them that this or that dog "may be mixes" because the breeder has an history of mixing or using mixes, intentionally or not, in their breeding program. We can underline the FACTS (look, this breeder produced some obvious mixes), but I believe we should leave the subsequent speculations to those who are looking for a pup to buy or for a stud dog for their bitch. We all have brains. Those who don't use theirs simply don't care and settle for the first affordable pup they find at a reasonable distance from home, but that's their problem. And then there are those who buy a pup just BECAUSE it is a mix, but they don't need any warining :twisted: The point is, right now half of the CSW population is marked some way or the other, it's bordering the ridiculous and you know the effect it has in my opinion? It makes people disregard every single one of those "warnings" (even the legitimate ones) because at this point they look just like the product of some sort of paranoia. It makes you feel like nothing on that database is reliable anymore, it's just someone guessing and putting strange "marks" almost at random. I'm not saying it's like that, but that is definitely the feeling it gives me right now, and that probably would give to the "beginner" that may need direction in finding a good pup. I'm just saying that if I had to look for a pup right now I would simply ignore those "warnings" and try to decide with my head and my knowledge which litters deserve to be taken into consideration. |
Sorry, that is not right ...
We make only a database for males/females with breeding license! The reason for it: all places you can look for stud dogs are not up to date. We don´t want to compete with WD ;) |
Thanks for explanation Tanja! And I am very glad with all the affords for this update :)
But it is a pity that there is still no explanation of the admin of wolfdog about (_!_) and (-?-)…. I know some owners in the meantime did even let make a DNA profile, or did even make the test for the B-locus (inheritance brown colour) to prove their dog was not a (red) SWH mix (and did send the results to the admin) … But nothing did change about their dog(s) in the database…. And also for me as a moderator there are “amazing” things to find in the data base… For example a first litter has no marks, but the second litter of the same combination has marks like (_!_) or (-?-)…. As one of the moderators of wolfdog I know it is really huge work for the admin (as one of the volunteers) to update everything. And I don’t want to blame anybody! But sometimes I (and probably other moderators) really don’t know any more what to answer on all questions of owners I receive, because I (we) also don’t know ! :( |
Margo, 2 questions.
http://www.wolfdog.org/site/dbase/d/375 Why Nancy is from "CzW-like mixes breeder"? She was born 15 years ago. If her breeder breeds crocodiles or elephants now - how it effects Nancy? Why people may think that Nancy is not pure-bred? The second question. http://www.wolfdog.org/site/ru/dbase/kennels/RU The first 2 kennels does not exist. Please consult http://fci.be/affixes.aspx Why it is written that they breed according FCI rules? Because one "breeder" has admin's rights and is a friend of 2nd's "breeder? Or there are 2 mistakes which were made by mistake and will be corrected soon and we apologize and so on etc.? |
I would like to ask, how should I add new dogs? Option "Add a new dog" does not work. Should I send an e-mail to admin, or is it better to write a PM or inform in some other way?
Thanks for the information :) |
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I am just saying that is what I have done - and yes, that is the address I used. |
Dear admin,
when old serwer fall :) I nice please you change my web site adres in www.girios-dvasia.lt and email [email protected] thanks |
Some questions for admin
1 because my litters are not published? 2 because the results hd,ed,md,dwarf of my dogs are not published? 3 because they are not published the championships and working trials of my dogs? |
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